PhiEaglesfan712

It seems like all the la nina/-ENSO years that end in 5 or 0 are cold in December. See 1995, 2000, 2005, and 2010. The only one one that wasn't cold was 2020, and we got a snowstorm mid-month.

Heck, even Atlantic City is getting snow. That's been hard to come to by the last 7-10 years.

Take it down a little south: This is really the first time since the January 28-29, 2022 snowstorm that we got this type of storm track, where there is more snow towards the coastal areas.

Sorry guys, but the MJO isn't going back to phase 8. Get ready to learn phase 5.

If I remember correctly, the eastern end of the storm produced heavy snow, and caused the Metrodome roof collapse. The Vikings game got pushed back, but it wasn't enough to save the Brett Favre streak.

Yeah, we can't leave December without at least an inch or two of snow. Cold and snowless Decembers are the absolute worst. 2022-23 is a very good example. I can't remember a time when a cold and low snow December produced a great rest of the winter season.

88-89 was the strong la nina. 89-90 was a dissipating weaker la nina/cold neutral, and was firmly ENSO neutral by the time the winter was over. The IOD was still at -1.4 on November 24, pretty much comparable to 2016 and 2022, both of which were low snow winters at PHL, and torched in January and February. The mid-March snowstorm in 2017 kept that year from being another below 10 inch snowfall season at PHL, and we all know the disaster that 2022-23 was. Cold and low snow Decembers are the worst combination. They almost always produce torch Januarys and Februarys. Come to think of it, I can't remember a time when a cold and low snow December produced a great rest of the winter.

The yards being muddy is a good sign. That usually means the drought is coming to an end soon.

This only works if December torches, like in 2015, 2021, or 2023. A cold December, like this one, makes it more likely, based on the law of averages, a torch will happen in January. The period of winter might already be happening.

The MEI finally updated. Here are the values for the past several months: MJ 2025: -1.2 JJ 2025: -1.2 JA 2025: -0.9 AS 2025: -1.1 SO 2025: -1.2 ON 2025: -1.1

Alabama only got into the playoff because of their name. Take away their name, and their resume is no better than teams like Illinois or UConn. Actually, those teams beat the ACC Champion. Alabama lost to the 13th place ACC team. If Alabama is the playoff, then let Illinois and UConn be in at as well.

Pretty much all the metrics are screaming at me "warm January and February". I mean, we got a deep -IOD. The last 2 times we had that, January and February literally torched. 89-90 is once in a lifetime, though. We had the coldest December, than turned into spring in January, and winter never really returned. PHL temperatures (Dec 1989-Mar 1990): Dec 89: 25.5 Jan 90: 40.3 Feb 90: 41.2 Mar 90: 46.1 A 15-degree increase in between December and January is absurd. That's something you see in between spring months (and sometimes, you don't even get a monthly swing that big). The Decembers in 95, 00, 05, and 10 all ended up in the 31-34.5 range (and this December may end up not even being that cold), so the turnaround won't be as dramatic.

Why not just run the ball there? We were already in field goal range. The only thing you can't do there is throw an interception. This is eerily similar to the 2023 collapse. That was the 3rd straight loss, also on a Monday night (in 2023, it was against the Seahawks, which also ended in Hurts throwing an interception).

Now that you put it this way, 2013-14 qualifies as a textbook wall-to-wall cold winter in the Eastern US. Pretty much 5 months straight of cold. Plus, it was a season that showed early cold, with a colder than average August and September.

13-14 and 14-15 are probably the closest we're going to get to a wall-to-wall cold winter in this climate. Both years had 4 out of 5 months well below average (November and January-March).

My gut tells me that December will come in cold, but not historic cold like 1989. It will end up in the -4 to -6 range, like 1995, 2000, 2005, and 2010. January and February will probably torch, though.

The big difference between the 1989 and 2005 analogs is that we got the flip back colder in February 2006. We even got a snowstorm on the 11th-12th. I can see this one happening again (you could even argue that we already did in 20-21). With 1989, there was no going back to winter once the calendar flipped to 1990. Spring pretty much began in January that year. 89-90 is a once-in-a-lifetime analog that will never happen again. It should be retired.

If it's a clipper, you can forget about it. The last time a clipper panned out in this area was on January 22, 2005, and that was over 20 years ago now.

Yeah, those north and west got the snow in 2020-21. The sharp cutoff south and east showed the warmer storm tracks that season. However, in many of the areas south and east that had below normal snowfall in 2020-21, they did better in 2021-22, when many of the storm tracks were colder and closer to the coast in January 2022.

The only time we really had a colder storm track was in 2017-18 and January 2022. Other than that, the classic storm track with a sharp cutoff south and east has been a recurrent theme since 2016-17 (that was even the case in many of the 2021 storms). That appears to continue this year. This doesn't bode well for snow lovers in coastal areas, like Atlantic City.

Just look at the storm tracks, and all the sharp cutoffs south and east. It's been a recurrent theme since 2016-17 (with the exception of 2017-18 and January 2022.) If you live in a coastal area, like Atlantic City, you're not going to see much snow this year.

13-14 and 14-15 were really good winters. In 2015, I passed by the Aetna lake in Medford in late February/early March, and it was still frozen over. We don't even get a hard freeze anymore, much less that late in the season.

Definitely agree with that. Plus, December 2023 was warm all the way through. Kind of like 2015 and 2021. All of those years had a regression to the mean in January, with snow and near normal temperature departures. This year we have a cold December so far. We just need a snowfall, or otherwise, we might have a similar situation to December 2022.

December 2023 was an all-out torch. Plus, it was in strong el nino. It's nothing alike to what we have now. The cold air is there this December. We just need a notable snowfall.

If we don't get any snow by the end of December, then I think it maybe time to give up hope. I can't remember a time when we had a good snowy rest of the winter after a cold and low snow December. Almost always, January and February torched in years like that.