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It's possible the virus is indeed weakening. Europe is almost completely open and has been for several weeks with few cases. US is more locked down then Europe is at the moment with 10 times as many cases being reported. https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-losing-its-lethality-in-italy-according-to-doctors-2020-6 Italy into single digit deaths https://www.aa.com.tr/en/latest-on-coronavirus-outbreak/italy-for-1st-time-sees-single-digit-daily-deaths-from-covid-19/1892183

Rent on gym facilities has to be sky high. The PPP has already run out. If they stay closed I can see loads of gyms closing. If the one close to me closes I will definitely be setting up one in my garage. But I'll always prefer a real gym to my home. I've met loads of long time friends there. My core group of friends are all related to the gym. The gym is a place we organize our hockey, football and basketball games. We discuss our travel plans. All the while making gains. I don't go to many bars anymore to socialize, the gym is my bar.

Yeah Florida, Arizona, and Texas are in for quite a fun ride the next 1-2 months. Houston hospitals have already met capacity and are in surge capacity mode.

Either the virus is weakening over in Europe or something is really wrong. https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-losing-its-lethality-in-italy-according-to-doctors-2020-6

Only 5 deaths yesterday in NY. This thing is dying out quick here after being the epicenter of the world. https://www.wxxinews.org/post/ny-reported-only-5-covid-19-deaths-saturday-cuomo-says

Cam Newton to Patriots...

Yeah, either way that's still a lot of young people in the hospital no matter how many cases

Pretty crazy numbers out of Arizona. Lots of young people in hospitals.

Got a little bit more down here.

At least deaths per day have steadily been going down even as cases increases. I know mortality has a 2-3 week lag time so we should once again see this spike the next few weeks. That is unless the hypothesize is true in that the virus is indeed weakening as is speculated on in Europe. Either that or the majority of people getting the virus are younger and able to beat it compared to the older population. I saw a few statistics that stated the average age in infection in Florida was mid 30s, so even though cases are going up, deaths are likely going to be going down slowly. The nursing homes really inflated deaths in the USA.

I mean I can't disagree here. Gyms, indoor restaurants, concerts, sporting events, movie threatres are the prime locations for maximum spread. It also depends on a number of factors including time of day you go to the gym, what training you do, limitations enacted by the state. For instance I usually train Friday evenings, Saturday afternoons, and sunday afternoon. Those times feature very few people in the gym. If needed I could completely segregate myself from anyone at my gym. I would come into contact with more people at work. However, during the week between 4-8 the gym is mobbed and would be difficult to social distance. It would be easier to social distance on cardio equipment then on the free weight section. There are a few spots including the squat racks which crunch has 5 of them where you could definitely distance yourself as they are spread really far apart. No matter how hard I trained there it would be very unlikely to transmit germs. The same can be said for the cardio machines. If they did 1 over 1 it would be quite easy to distance. They posted online that they installed these in all locations too.

Yeah it looks pretty far SW on radar in Michigan.

Those are some nice cells

This makes zero sense. Air conditioning is in every building... Why do gyms with AC get closed and other businesses with AC get to stay open? Retail stores and restaurants literally use identical AC systems to gyms.

Over 100,000 small businesses have already closed due to covid-19, this is despite PPP help. I know of several people who have come into my office with 20+ year old businesses that had to close due to not receiving funds from PPP and not enough capital to function while having to stay closed. In the coming months I expect this number to double/triple. We are well on our way into a depression for the first time since the 30s. Is all of this worth it? History will decide that in the coming years. https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/05/12/small-business-used-define-americas-economy-pandemic-could-end-that-forever/ "But already, economists project that more than 100,000 small businesses have shut permanently since the pandemic escalated in March, according to a study by researchers at the University of Illinois, Harvard Business School, Harvard University and the University of Chicago. Their latest data suggests at least 2 percent of small businesses are gone, according to a survey conducted May 9 to 11."

My situation is quite different. I had 4-5 trips planned in 2020 and early 2021 before me and the wife decide to have our kid. She just turned 33 and want to have it by the time shes 35. Lots of complications can happen after 35. Once I have a kid I don't plan to travel for quite awhile. This virus literally ruined my life travel plans. Call me selfish, so be it. We will all be dead by then time were 80-90, we could die tomorrow in a car accident. I'll take my chances against the virus, and protect the elderly in their homes.

You have a much higher chance of getting COVID at work or grocery shopping then traveling.

That's highly debatable. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/05/21/why-governor-andrew-cuomo-praised-coronavirus-response-column/5220164002/ I don't understand this reasoning. I come into contact with about 50 new people a day at my job. I would come into contact with less then 50 people in my entire trip out west. Why is one safer then the other? One is outside, one is inside. Why are Lowes, Walmart, Target, Home Depot, etc... allowed to be open but small shops with less traffic not allowed? None of it makes sense to me. Are the PPP and unemployment going to be extended? We are 27 trillion in debt? Do you understand what that means? Do we let small businesses just fail if another lockdown occurs? 89% of businesses in this country have less then 20 employees. The large businesses that were allowed to stay open have become monopolies. Bezos on his way to becoming the first trillionaire. How does any of this make sense? https://sbecouncil.org/about-us/facts-and-data/ What is the approximate timeline in when this all ends? Do you know? What if a successful vaccine never gets found? Whats the end game? Is this the end game?

Yeah I'm still going either way just took off almost 2 weeks in September. I've been working the entire time and only have used 1 PTO day out of my 23 for the year. I plan to fly into Vegas, rent my car and then be in nature for 2 weeks camping at various places. I'll be more socially distant on vacation then at work, thats for sure. Was thinking something similar to this but with 3-4 days in Yosemite and a stop in San Diego.

Sorry I was at work and quickly posted that based on WNY totals. These are 24 hour totals 48 hour totals across our area have been 1-2". https://kamala.cod.edu/ny/latest.nous41.KBUF.html

Literally insane. I was planning to do a west coast road trip through the mountains in September. It better be lifted by then. How would they even enforce that? If I flew out to Vegas and flew back to NY and they made me quarantine, would I just go home for 2 weeks? Would I be able to still work? What if I drove to a state in which had high cases, but flew out of a state that had low cases. How would they even know. Ridiculous...

1-2" across most of the area https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&product=PNS&issuedby=BUF

It's killing me. Had June 30th set in my calendar for a 3 hour workout session. Now there is no real timeframe...Meanwhile I'm watching instagram stories of my buddies in California and Florida making gains.