SomeguyfromTakomaPark

I have traveled to Ecuador and it definitely doesn’t seem like the kind of place where the government has the ability to do any kind of massive public health operation.

At the end of the day, based on the last nyc comment @PhineasC it seems like one of the following must be true for you 1) you don’t believe that many people are dying 2) you don’t care that that many people are dying 3) you are one of those disaster porn people who won’t be satisfied til tons more people die If it’s number 1, id be interested to know where you get your info, if it’s 2, I guess we can’t make you care about human life but I’m sure glad you’re not the governor of Maryland, if it’s 3, just chill out and stop rooting for mass death.

NYC is fine!!! Wow! I am from ny originally and most of my family lives there. I have two friends who are doctors in the area and everything they are all telling me is NOT fine. People are dying by the truckload. They have had the equivalent of more than 4 9/11’s.

The virus spread a lot in nyc, now a ton of people are dying there and their hospitals are swamped. I want to avoid that here. What is there not to get?

I’m not arguing for that at all. I agree, but when more cases keep showing up it means eventually more people will die.

Wow dude you’re off your rocker lol. I’m not worried about Bahrain bro. I’m worried about Montgomery county!!!

How could counting the number of people who die from something not be relevant? If less people die, that’s good, more people die, that’s bad. That’s irrefutable.

You’re in a bubble. Most people want to be safe. Finding more cases wouldn’t make the deaths go away. Swine flu never came close to this rate of deaths.

So we aren’t allowed to look at testing data because it might be a snapshot in time of a week or two ago, we aren’t allowed to look at deaths because for some reason how many people dying isn’t relevant. So how are we supposed to analyze this?

Yes, but for people to test positive, they have to have the virus. And every day we test 150k people we find 30k with the virus. That isn’t good.

Those are how many people caught the virus at some point in the not too distant past which is a very relevant piece of information.

That really sucks. Yeah, colleges are going to have to start thinking about the fall. Will kids be showing up moving it o dorms as usual? I’m also working tomorrow but one drink won’t affect that...

Dang, nothing about overall testing capacity, ability to test symptomatic people, or contact tracing?

Wow that’s impressive. I’ve gone out to the liquor store with gloves/mask and just make sure it’s not busy before I walk in.

It’s actually cool enough to night justify a fire, and when there’s a fire I’m in the mood for whiskey. Ohhhh yes.

Even if they’re from a week or two ago it’s still a problem. Eventually we need the number of new cases to go down or this doesn’t end.

What’s the gating?

It all depends. Somehow we’re still adding 700 cases a day. That needs to stop soon.

Having to convert entire hospitals to ICUs is a major capacity problem and isn’t sustainable so I don’t see how you can say the hospital capacity concerns were unwarranted.

As for the hospital capacity thing you are aware that most hospitals in nyc and surrounding areas have basically been converted entirely to ICUs?

Also ventilators are basically a death sentence with covid and hospitals are moving away from using them and trying other techniques. The concerns over hospital capacity are/were very much warranted IMO.

That’s a lot of 40-69 year olds dying!!

The paying salaries indefinitely, 6 month closure, etc is a straw man. No one is advocating for these things.

If we let knuckleheads seize the debate and force us to open things up too fast/widely we might be in big trouble. That’s the biggest possible way we fail IMO.

6 months or anywhere’s near that is not feasible to stay fully locked down imo. I think if we are smart and careful and really ramp up testing/contact tracing we can open up in late spring. It’s gonna take some trial and error of course but I think it’s possible. There’s no way we’re staying on lockdown through the summer.