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MO/KS/AR/OK 2023-2024 Winter Discussion
The Waterboy replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
I nominate Flizzard for team captain! -
MO/KS/AR/OK 2023-2024 Winter Discussion
The Waterboy replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
Well, it seems that apathy and numbness are setting in with most of us, me included. Does anyone have a good pregame speech to rally the team??? -
MO/KS/AR/OK 2023-2024 Winter Discussion
The Waterboy replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
NWS Tulsa just issued a Winter Storm Watch for a lot of us in NEOK and NWAR. Doesn’t include Metro Tulsa at this time. WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM SUNDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH MONDAY MORNING... * WHAT...For the Wind Chill Advisory, very cold wind chills expected. Wind chills as low as 20 below zero. For the Wind Chill Watch, dangerously cold wind chills possible. Wind chills as low as 20 below zero. For the Winter Storm Watch, heavy snow possible. Total snow accumulations of 3 to 5 inches possible. -
MO/KS/AR/OK 2023-2024 Winter Discussion
The Waterboy replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
Well, the Euro sucks again. -
MO/KS/AR/OK 2023-2024 Winter Discussion
The Waterboy replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
We just had a gnarly thunderstorm come through Bentonville. Pea sized hail and I’d estimate wind gusts of at least 50mph if not 60. -
MO/KS/AR/OK 2023-2024 Winter Discussion
The Waterboy replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
18z GFS and ICON were both better than I expected after the Euro debacle. We’ll take it for now. I know there’s a lot of talk about suppression pushing it further south. Maybe this does the typical model NW shift??? Although that seems to happen more with cutters. Overall happy to see models hold steady-ish and give a middle finger to the Euro. -
MO/KS/AR/OK 2023-2024 Winter Discussion
The Waterboy replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
NAM going to come in further south. Ugh. -
MO/KS/AR/OK 2023-2024 Winter Discussion
The Waterboy replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
18z HRRR looks solid. Decent uptick around Tulsa compared to 12z run. -
MO/KS/AR/OK 2023-2024 Winter Discussion
The Waterboy replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
Thanks for the info! What do the Ensembles show for the Friday storm? -
MO/KS/AR/OK 2023-2024 Winter Discussion
The Waterboy replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
For what it’s worth (which might not be much) the RGEM, RAP, and HRRR have 1-2” for NWAR and Missouri. Lesser amounts further west. Cue the “So you’re saying there’s a chance” GIF. -
MO/KS/AR/OK 2023-2024 Winter Discussion
The Waterboy replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
Over the last few runs most of the models continue to speed up the cold front on Friday. Typing this on my phone so the formatting could be wonky when I post this. HR 72 temp for Bentonville ICON - 48 GFS - 25 CMC - 44 NAM - 42 RGEM - 45 Euro - 47 (06 run) HR 78 temp ICON - 24 GFS - 20 CMC - 21 NAM - 29 RGEM - 18 Euro - 44 (06 run) By hr 84 all models (except NAM) are in the mid teens to lower 20’s. RECAP: GFS is much faster with the front. Euro much slower. NAM is pretty much non-existent with the front at all. Temps on the ICON after hour 84 are stupid cold. 5 straight days below zero. There should be a quick changeover to snow. We need to continue to see the trend of a faster solution. One additional note regarding faster push from GFS: Tulsa’s temp at 06z Friday: 18z run yesterday - 50 00z run - 49 06z run - 31 12z run - 27 -
MO/KS/AR/OK 2023-2024 Winter Discussion
The Waterboy replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
It has been an interesting trend for sure. You guys in Wichita might get 4+ out of it. Hoping we can see that same trend as it gets into NWAR/SWMO tomorrow morning. -
MO/KS/AR/OK 2023-2024 Winter Discussion
The Waterboy replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
18z NAM trended towards HRRR for tomorrow. Still nothing to get too excited about but maybe we can eke out an inch or two. -
MO/KS/AR/OK 2023-2024 Winter Discussion
The Waterboy replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
Well that’s new. Not surprising though. Hopefully it’s a blip. -
MO/KS/AR/OK 2023-2024 Winter Discussion
The Waterboy replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
Significant differences at hour 84 with the NAM versus GFS/GEM. NAM seems to be the outlier as of now which is in our favor. I’m pretty sure the NAM typically sucks that far out. Hoping the Euro is in our favor. -
MO/KS/AR/OK 2023-2024 Winter Discussion
The Waterboy replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
Probably an inch or so here in Bentonville. In the words of Billy Madison, not too shabby. Let’s hope this is the appetizer to next week’s main course. -
MO/KS/AR/OK 2023-2024 Winter Discussion
The Waterboy replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
Interesting info in the Springfield NWS write-up overnight: Attention then turns to the next large storm system that will come through Monday through Tuesday. It is quite impressive how much agreement there has been between the GFS/ECMWF/Canadian deterministic models (and even ensembles to some degree) for such a dynamic system. A very potent deep trough will scoop through the central CONUS, forcing a deep surface low that will create moderate to heavy precipitation for much of the central and eastern US. For starters, the NAEFS/ENS ESATs prog this trough/low pair as the lowest pressure they have modeled in the last 30 years for our area at this time of year. With such a storm system, we will likely see at least minor impacts (currently 30-50% chance from the Probabilistic Winter Storm Severity Index). There is still uncertainty in exact track which could determine whether our impacts are mainly rain-based or snow-based. Nevertheless, the synoptic setup is continuing to match well with our Heavy Snow Climatology: ENS and GEFS member surface low locations are clustered within northern AR, the 850 mb low moves through south-central MO, and the 500 mb low is closing and extends into OK; all which match with heavy snow climatology for our area. The only difference is that we would like to see a more negatively tilted trough versus the positive tilt that is shown in many ENS/GEPS members, which may struggle to force colder air into the region for snow. At this point in time, the most likely scenario looks to be moderate rain initially within the warm-air advection regime ahead of the low, then potentially some moderate snow on the backside of the low for at least some of our CWA (more likely toward the north). Finer details will be ironed out in subsequent forecasts -
MO/KS/AR/OK 2023-2024 Winter Discussion
The Waterboy replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
18z HRRR was pretty juicy. 1-3” inches through OK into Western/NW AR. -
MO/KS/AR/OK 2022-2023 Winter Discussion
The Waterboy replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
Bentonville/Bella Vista getting hammered right now with heavy sleet. -
MO/KS/AR/OK 2022-2023 Winter Discussion
The Waterboy replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
Measured 5” in Bentonville. Also have one minor tree limb that snapped. -
MO/KS/AR/OK 2022-2023 Winter Discussion
The Waterboy replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
How is The Great Tulsa Donut Hole of 2023 even possible? That’s just stupid and really sucks. Especially for all the hype this storm had over the past week. -
MO/KS/AR/OK 2022-2023 Winter Discussion
The Waterboy replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
It seems like every hourly run of the RAP and HRRR continue to shift to the SE. Pretty soon Little Rock’s going to be in the sweet spot. LOL. -
MO/KS/AR/OK 2022-2023 Winter Discussion
The Waterboy replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
Meaning the current actual temp is 2-3 colder than what the HRRR shows? -
MO/KS/AR/OK 2022-2023 Winter Discussion
The Waterboy replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
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MO/KS/AR/OK 2022-2023 Winter Discussion
The Waterboy replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
18z NAM shifted NW a tad.