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Octorcher or Roctober 2023 Discussion Thread
Layman replied to Damage In Tolland's topic in New England
Firewood - definitely warms you more than just once! Those Fiskars splitting axes are great. Made such a big difference over my splitting mauls when I made the switch. I've since migrated to hydraulic power but it's still gets use for the fire pit and for slimming down some of the bigger splits. -
Octorcher or Roctober 2023 Discussion Thread
Layman replied to Damage In Tolland's topic in New England
Hit 30.0 for a low this morning. First fire of the season in the wood stove. -
Love to see it. Always been an exciting time of year!
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The climate change topic is a hot one (pun intended...) and gets peoples hackles up for sure. Why is it often black and white? Your example is a great one - your livelihood is is based largely around activities that some perceive as an existential threat. How you make a living is "killing the planet" leading humans to an "extinction level event". You're the enemy. Along with big oil and the rest of the bogeyman stood up for everyone to beat on. It's difficult to have rational, logical, honest, reasonable and empathetic conversations with ground rules that have this tenor. Is it "irrefutable" that temps are warming up over time? On what time scale? Does it matter? I personally believe the data set is laughable. When we speak of record highs, lows, precipitation, etc it's sounds ominous or fantastical to say "in recorded history", etc. How many years is that? 200? 250? Of what could be deemed reasonably reliable. How about data integrity? How accurate were Josiah's and Imogene's temp and precip recordings on November 3rd, 1885? Regardless, it's the best we've got and it's in the record. How about temps at Logan over the past 10 years? Are those accurate? How many of the recording stations have been moved from original sites in the past 100 years? All of them? How many years of reliable data is needed to get an accurate read on what happens with the planet? 100? 10,000? 50,000? 100,000? 500,000? 100 million? There are a lot of variables out there and I'm extremely hesitant to believe that those that have arisen in the past 20-250 years are indicative of the last million+ years. How accurate is ice core data? Are the derivative indicators reliable to determine actual temperatures? Do they accurately depict the atmosphere at specific moments in time? Does humanity actually have any impact on global temperatures? The world has been around a loooooong time and has gone through a lot over the past many millions of years. Our existence here is less than a cosmic blink of an eye. The data we're attempting to interpret to determine what's going on in this moment of existence is so infinitesimally small it's like examining the last second of time you just lived to determine what's going to happen with the rest of your life. It seems to be accepted that today represents the very height of technological advancement for the current human civilization. How many other civilizations have come before us and were at this stage or beyond? Each year we learn about civilizations dating back further and further in time yet, they're still only 10's of thousands of years old. All obviously rhetorical questions and personal opinions, certainly not directed at you or anyone else, but encompassing areas I find meaningful when discussing important topics. While not misanthropic, I'm highly cynical and believe hubris, greed and power/control drive a large portion of humanity rather than a quest for true understanding of our environment/existence. As science has become ever more corrupted it makes it exceedingly difficult to know if the data you're working with is accurate or not. Interesting time to be alive but I'm sure they all are and have been.
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Octorcher or Roctober 2023 Discussion Thread
Layman replied to Damage In Tolland's topic in New England
FWIW, a line of geese, looked like hundreds, longer than I've seen in years just flew over the house heading W/SW. Maybe they won't be camping at the Portsmouth Traffic Circle this winter. -
Octorcher or Roctober 2023 Discussion Thread
Layman replied to Damage In Tolland's topic in New England
How many other forums across the entirety of the internet are there where a statement like this arises and is likely received by nods of understanding rather than question marks? I enjoy hearing the stories of storms gone by. They tend to get better with time and the memories are often better than the actual experience itself. -
Octorcher or Roctober 2023 Discussion Thread
Layman replied to Damage In Tolland's topic in New England
Feels like we went to bed in August and woke up in November -
Octorcher or Roctober 2023 Discussion Thread
Layman replied to Damage In Tolland's topic in New England
Not complaining at all however...if I had any influence on when we get this kind of weather I'd prefer it arrive on March or April 27th rather than October 27th. Those early warm days on the water in anticipation of the summer ahead are almost as good as the cool Fall days with graying skies and the hint of wood smoke in the air. -
Octorcher or Roctober 2023 Discussion Thread
Layman replied to Damage In Tolland's topic in New England
Terrible. Sorry you and your community are going through this. Absolutely senseless. -
Octorcher or Roctober 2023 Discussion Thread
Layman replied to Damage In Tolland's topic in New England
Seems especially so when discussing climate change. -
Octorcher or Roctober 2023 Discussion Thread
Layman replied to Damage In Tolland's topic in New England
I wonder what a police officer with a gun might've done if they happened to be in the bowling alley when this guy started shooting? -
Octorcher or Roctober 2023 Discussion Thread
Layman replied to Damage In Tolland's topic in New England
We welcome the warmth, not these vile creatures. Tis the season of the swarm. -
Octorcher or Roctober 2023 Discussion Thread
Layman replied to Damage In Tolland's topic in New England
I'm glad weather like this is what has stuck with me through the years from my childhood. I do remember the brown grass, deep cold and just "wanting it to snow!" but fortunately those deep days are the ones I remember best. -
Octorcher or Roctober 2023 Discussion Thread
Layman replied to Damage In Tolland's topic in New England
Couple of questions for you on this: 1) When you say "interior" is that simply away from the coast, or is it more defined with regard to Northern, Southern and Central New England? I know those areas require annual definitions and imagine as the first snows start falling the maps clarifying that will come out. I could use a refresher myself... 2) I recall one winter when my brother and I trekked through some deep snows in the woods in our backyard. Based on some milestones we both remember, he's thinking it was 1987 or 1988. Mostly because he thinks it was "around the time we got Simon's Quest and The Adventure of Link" . I feel like we were in easily 12-24" of snow but we were kids and it could've been less, but still reasonably deep. We were living near MHT at the time. Was the only real chance for this January of 1987 or could it have been 1988? -
Octorcher or Roctober 2023 Discussion Thread
Layman replied to Damage In Tolland's topic in New England
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Octorcher or Roctober 2023 Discussion Thread
Layman replied to Damage In Tolland's topic in New England
Over the past weekend I ended up north or Concord, NH and also down into eastern CT. Even though it was gray and rainy most of the time, it looked like normal Fall throughout with nice colors everywhere. It's still a little drab around my property and always feels "late" for some reason, but based on past pictures I have it seems to be right on schedule. -
FTA: "I may have cut too far..." "A few days later, state officials performed a site inspection and found that Tremonte had cut 839 trees on state land. " That is some serious commitment to creating glades!
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Octorcher or Roctober 2023 Discussion Thread
Layman replied to Damage In Tolland's topic in New England
I remember thinking that at least the wind component was unexpected. Either I was too distracted at the time to pay attention to what the weather was going to be or it simply wasn't broadcast as being as potent as it ended up being. While I don't like the high winds and potential damage, that is the part of weather that remains intriguing to me - regardless of what's forecast, it can change up and deliver something unexpected. -
Octorcher or Roctober 2023 Discussion Thread
Layman replied to Damage In Tolland's topic in New England
I thought this was an October event, but I'm not so sure...Maybe some of you will know when this hit: Highly confident it was 2010. Thought it was October but when searching it looks like it could've been February 25-26, 2010. Some storm rolled through this area and I was awake for the strongest, longest and loudest wind I have ever experienced. Fully convinced the roof was coming off my house. I know there's an affinity for some here that enjoy, encourage and wish for damage but that's no beuno for me, especially after experiencing this particular event. I was laying in bed, don't recall the time, but the wind was absolutely howling outside. A constant buffeting with house shaking gusts. We built only 5 years prior so we weren't dealing with an old New England farmhouse rattling around or anything like that. Regardless the house was taking a beating. At some point I heard a big gust coming. It started off like a typical strong wind does when you can hear it, it builds, then peaks and relaxes. This one built, and built and continued building, shaking the whole house until it seemed to me the roof was shaking. I was 100% expecting to see it lift up and fly away and be staring at the sky like in a movie. It seemed like forever that the wind kept blowing and it finally subsided. Power was already out at that point but I found out the next day how bad it was. Somewhere afterwards I saw that a 90mph gust was recorded either at Pease Tradeport or Adams Point. That gust tore across Great Bay and passed within a short distance from my house. The trees are still all uprooted in it's path and you can see them from the road where they were simply cut at the edge of the road where they lay. Took down power lines and poles along my whole road. Six full days without power. No access out of the road until late in the afternoon the day after. I remember it being cold but don't really recall snow. I thought this happened in October but maybe it was February? I joined some neighbors with an army of chainsaws to try and cut a path out of the road. We did what we could on our end but there was a massive pine that came down that no residents had the equipment to deal with. Not really sure how other states faired during this storm because we were focused on getting power back and didn't really hear much outside news. Anyone know for sure when this might've been? October, February or ??? -
Octorcher or Roctober 2023 Discussion Thread
Layman replied to Damage In Tolland's topic in New England
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Octorcher or Roctober 2023 Discussion Thread
Layman replied to Damage In Tolland's topic in New England
The entirety of my weather memories are fragmented. That's one of the reasons I like reading the threads here - so many of you have clear data or recollections of specific storms, months, winters, etc. Unless I've got pictures or something major happened, it's tough for me to put a date on it. I've seen a lot of mentions of the deep cold and snow drought of the 1980's. My biggest memories are that Thanksgiving where we had deep, plowable snow and multiple years from 1986-1988 where I would go snowboarding at Pat's Peak on the Blue Eastern Hardpack (ice!). Pat's Peak was one of the only resorts allowing snowboarding at the time and my Burton Woody Performer struggled to perform in those conditions! Back at home I remember having lots of months with no snow to speak of and the bitter cold. -
Octorcher or Roctober 2023 Discussion Thread
Layman replied to Damage In Tolland's topic in New England
I recall one Thanksgiving in the 80's where it felt like deep winter - must've been 1986. Being young enough at the time to still be impressionable, that time period unfortunately programmed me to believe for far too long that we should have serious snowstorms throughout November. -
Octorcher or Roctober 2023 Discussion Thread
Layman replied to Damage In Tolland's topic in New England
You (and others?) may find this data interesting: Localized New England power generation by source. It gets even more granular than this, but the data provided encompasses the top level categories: https://www.iso-ne.com/about/key-stats/resource-mix Photovoltaic comprises 3% of total generation. To meaningfully affect the residential rate, you're going to need hundreds of millions of dollars in rebates, not also subsidized by the federal government to have an impact. For example, a project in NH that I had some familiarity with that cost approximately $130 million added somewhere around $0.005 per MWh to the residential electric rate. While the electric companies are considered private, between the FERC, ISO's, PUC's, etc they are so embedded in government and regulation they may as well be wholly controlled by the government. A very recent IEA paper looking at the logistics of transitioning to a renewable based electric grid in the coming 2-3 decades: https://iea.blob.core.windows.net/assets/70f2de45-6d84-4e07-bfd0-93833e205c81/ElectricityGridsandSecureEnergyTransitions.pdf An interesting takeaway was that to reach current stated goals by 2050, about 50 million miles of the electric grid would need to be refurbished and added to. This amount is equal to the entire existing global grid. Anyway, it's a lot of data on a topic you seem passionate about and you may find useful/interesting. How about that Northern New England snow?! It's coming... -
Octorcher or Roctober 2023 Discussion Thread
Layman replied to Damage In Tolland's topic in New England
It's a little known fact that some of the deepest and darkest shades of blue and red we know today were created in November 1879. -
Octorcher or Roctober 2023 Discussion Thread
Layman replied to Damage In Tolland's topic in New England
Do the squirrels consumption of acorns affect total expected snowfall? i.e.: 5" of acorns left un-vaccumed on the lawn, minus 2" of acorns due to aggressive squirrel consumption, equals less snow IMBY?