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RU848789

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  1. Snowing moderately now, with a solid 1/4" coating (noteworthy after last winter, lol) on almost all surfaces: driveway is covered but somewhat busy street in front of our house is patchily (if that's a word) covered. Still 34F. It is pretty...
  2. Snow started here in Metuchen (we're at 34/30F) around 1:15 pm and we have a nice dusting now. Looks like some heavier stuff coming and I haven't been in the loop as I was out for the last 5 hours, but is that sleet hitting the Philly area now?
  3. Speaking of uncertainty, look at the 12Z runs today so far. Just looking at Edison, the GFS has 1.8", the CMC has 6.7", the RGEM has 1.8" and the NAM has 4.6". Sure Holmdel or South Brunswick have generally less than 1" from those models, but parts of the 95 corridor (including NB to NYC) have similar modeled snowfalls as Edison. If that's not huge uncertainty, I don't know what is. Will the large snowfall amounts in the snowier models verify? Likely not, which is why the NWS and others have ~1" to 1-2" accumulations NE of NB along 95, but one has to acknowledge the uncertainty in the models and the forecasts made at least in part from these models.
  4. I know, I said that. I included the 10:1 map, as that shows how much snow is "falling" to illustrate that it's not "mostly rain." Kuchera shows about 2" and I think that's underdone on the model verbatim, as column temps are below 32F on the model until the surface and given decent intensity (once snow starts accumulating, subsequent snow is not affected much by above 32F surface temps, as the actual surface is now 32F snow/slush), even NYC will accumulate maybe 2-3" from that 4.3" of snow falling. That's my informed opinion. I'm not a met, but I guarantee you a PhD in chem eng'g and 30+ years of doing hard science including a lot of work in heat transfer and physical chemistry phase transitions (crystallizations and melting - with several patents in the field for organic molecules) and a lifetime of observing high intensity snow accumulating when people said it wouldn't (think most March/April storms), means a little bit. This is not really a "meteorology" question (assuming the model is correct and no warm nose aloft, just above 32F at the surface), but a physical chemistry/rate question.
  5. That's incorrect. Plenty of snow "falling" - it's just not clear how much of it will accumulate with 34-35F surface temps; during the thump part, NYC looks to be below 32F (barely) for the whole column, which is good. So verbatim there will be snow and if we can avoid a warm nose aloft (who knows?) I think a few inches (not the 4.3" on the 10:1 map below) is likely - as per the GFS, not a forecast.
  6. Remember, verbatim, the NAM is putting down 6-9" of snow in much of the region including the 95 corridor NE of about Trenton from about 6 pm Sat to 2 am Sunday in the initial thump, which translates to about 3/4-1" per hour rates and even if the surface temps are 33-34F (likely for 95), at that intensity melting will be minimal once the accumulation starts (as subsequent snow will be falling on 32F snow), so 10:1 is quite possible unless there is some significant melting going on in the column, which the model doesn't imply as soundings look to be below 32F for the whole column for this entire time even in places like Edison, NJ. In fact, with good dendritic growth likely with good saturation levels due to excellent lift, we could even exceed 10:1, IMO, especially inland. If the model is correct...
  7. No, look at the NWS office maps side by side. One can't have a discontinuity of <1" on the NWS-Philly side of the Morris/Somerset borders next to 3-4" on the NWS-NYC side of that same border. Same thing with Middlesex adjacent to Union/SI (0" next to 1-2" in SI and <1" next to 2-3" in Union). There was no collaboration, clearly.
  8. Lots of NWS office inconsistency issues. The NWS has issued winter storm watches for a general 4-8" of snow for the Poconos, Lehigh Valley, Sussex, Warren, Morris, Passaic and NW Bergen, plus the Hudson Valley N of the Tappan Zee, but the discussions from the Philly and NYC offices are somewhat at odds, with the Philly office focusing on the warmth of the ocean and easterly winds keeping accumulations <1" for 95 from Philly to Woodbridge and SE of there, while the NYC office is saying things are trending cooler and now have 2-3" for places along 95 in NENJ (Union/Hudson) and NYC. I think they're all scrambling, so it's not worth focusing on their discussions, but their maps with inconsistencies are worth discussing - just look at the boundaries along Morris/Somerset where the Philly office has <1", while magically across the border into Essex/Union, the NWS-NYC has 3-6" of snow. Also, the NWS-NYC map has 8-12" amounts for their northern counties, but the watches only mention 5-8" so I think they have some work to do to get their forecast straight.
  9. No it does not. It only takes into account the max air temp in the column and does a crude subtraction from a 10:1 ratio based on that. I've posted deeply and extensively on Kuchera. It does not address snow crystal formation/habit, aggregation while falling due to partial melting, intensity or the degree of melting at the surface due to ground temps or solar insolation, all of which can be important.
  10. Yes, but I dislike Kuchera, as it's a lousy algorithm and while it's probably more realistic for this scenario, I prefer knowing how much snow is actually falling (assuming 10:1 ratio) and will do my own analysis of how much of that will likely accumulate, given how many variables there are that Kuchera doesn't take into account, plus some that aren't known well, like intensity.
  11. Who do I have to pay to have this verify imby, lol? Incredible gradient from an inch or two (at the end of the storm) ~20 miles SE of me to about 8-10" at my house to over a foot 5 miles north of me. Insane.
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