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Another point to think about: not all people NOT getting the Covid vax are "anti-vaxxers". Some are waiting for full FDA approval, some have had allergies to vaccines in the past, and some are struggling with auto immune issues and don't wanna add another variable to their situation. We should be careful not to label people.

And all 5 had significant comorbidities. People who are unhealthy already don't need much to send them to the hospital.

This is my problem with this recent CDC info: #1) The similar viral load between vaxxed and unvaxxed is measured in the nasal passages. Covid is primarily spread via droplets through coughing, sneezing, and talking. These are NOT passed through the nasal passages, but from the lungs and through the mouth. Again, the source of virus transfer is not the nasal passages, but lungs, throat, and mouth. #2) The immune system is complex. There are different antibody immune cells in the mucosal system (IgA's) vs. the systemic adaptive system (IgG's) (which activates when antigens enter the blood). The blood antibodies (IgG's) are the ones that are primarily triggered with the vaccine because it's injected directly into this system. And the IgG antibodies in the blood don't get to the mucosal 'surfaces' very well and can't fight against Covid when it initially enters the body through this route - allowing the Delta variant to replicated quickly. However, as soon as those viruses start to invade deeper into the body and enter the blood of a vaxxed person, they are met full-force with a blitzkrieg of IgG's, T's, B's, and NK's ready to kick some ass. This 'loaded gun' readiness prevents the serious symptoms. Of course, with the unvaxxed, the immune system takes some time to 'ramp up' thus allowing the virus to get deeper and do more damage - then the immune system can overcomp in some cases and really cause a mess. On a side note, the mucosal immune system responds better to immunizations administered through the nose, for example. Might be interesting for them to develop a nasal spray vaccination as a one, two punch. With that said, my point is that similar viral load measured in the nasal passage should be expected for both vaxxed and unvaxxed, but this doesn't necessarily mean that transmission is the same between the 2 groups. I've bounced this off of my brother who's a Bio PhD and he thinks it's a legit argument against re-masking for vaccinated peeps. Here's a good article I found about this little talked about perspective: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2020.611337/full

Any updates to the tornado?

Exactly. Especially when words like 'unthinkable' are used, lol. Unthinkable is what happens in our beloved apocalypse movies.

Any chance we can keep the climate change stuff in the other forum?

Well, they dropped the watch for the S Shore...

Yup, look what happens to the line once it gets away from LO... https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/nexrad/index.php?type=BUF-N0Q-1-24 On one hand, it's nice to live in an area that doesn't get lots of severe weather, but on the other, it would be more 'fun' if we did.

Just had a nice breezy storm roll through - as I was finishing mowing. Nothing bad, but could see the winds off the deck really moving. Could see 60+ gusts today with the stronger cells. Not convinced were gonna warm up enough before this 2nd line gets here.

From a private company's perspective, I could see why the NFL is 'forcing' the issue. Lost revenue is a bit of an issue.

I've seen it before...like it though because it takes a different track as to how the climate changes (N Atlantic current). Obviously not happening in 6-8 weeks...lol

I just watched the movie last night...lol.

Agreed. It would be interesting to see how many kids were infected vs hospitalized...likely a large difference. Probably statistically insignificant.

Thanks for this. I was telling my fam this haze was odd and seemed a result of wildfires, but had no idea of the source.

Just over an inch here since midnight. We actually needed it as most of the heavy rains for the past 2 weeks missed us.

There's always going to be breakthrough cases, but the data clearly shows that vaccinated people are much more protected against delta than non. So I don't think anyone got 'played.'

Wow, hope everyone is alright.

We only got .2" yesterday. Need more here. My Tempest recorded a max Td of 79.3. This is super high for this area...can anyone verify?

Been watching it from the west side, pretty amazing.

Western Monroe cty. Really getting hammered.

Here's 2 discreet cells flattening out my kitchen window.

3 smaller storms passed by, but only sprinkles. Thinking that line moving NE is where the action will be for most of us.

84 w/77 Td here. 94 hx... Soupy.

In the wake of a warm front...it will be warmer and more humid today with apparent temperatures of 90 to 95 across the lake plains in the afternoon. Thunderstorms likely to fire up...especially during the midday and afternoon...focusing on lake breeze and previous convection boundaries. Once again PWAT values arnd 2"...so tropical downpours a risk. Finger Lakes to North Country main threat area. Nominal low level jet also adding potential for strong to severe storms with straight line winds being main threat. Supercells not out of the question during early portion of convection. SPC now highlighting much of the forecast area in a slight risk area.

BUF says they're leaning on the RGEM and HRRR through tonight and those leave the S Shore and E Lake area dry.