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Upstate NY Banter and General Discussion..
vortmax replied to wolfie09's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
At least the truth is coming to the surface for many of the corrupted. -
According to the radar, #1 it is...lol
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The storms puttered out by the time they got to my location. Just 0.1" of moderate rain.
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Upstate NY Banter and General Discussion..
vortmax replied to wolfie09's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Thanks. Regarding #1 - There's been no data showing ADE (or VED - Vaccine Enhanced Disease) is actually occurring with the mRNA vaxxes. In fact, if it were, we wouldn't be seeing such good results in the population. Actually, zero vaccines given today cause ADE. An older measles vaccine and a respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) vaccine were removed from use after showing evidence of causing ADE. A dengue virus vaccine causing ADE was also discontinued for young children. There's nothing really 'different' about an mRNA vaccine vs a traditional one other than the way it triggers our immune systems to recognize a virus. We're basically 'skipping' a couple of steps in the process by creating the mRNA strand synthetically vs having our cells do it. Regarding this comment along with the concern in #2 regarding variants: "anti-disease vaccines that do not prevent transmission can create conditions that promote the emergence of pathogen strains that cause more severe disease in unvaccinated hosts." Remember the mutation rate of Covid is 4x lower than the flu. It took a HUGE outbreak, in a mostly unvaccinated population in India, to create the delta variant. As long as we can keep a cap of massive, unvaccinated outbreaks, then Covid will begin to disappear. Covid needs lots of unfettered replication in hosts to mutate. This unfettered replication doesn't happen in vaxxed people, therefore the viral load quantity does not happen in said people. Also, viruses are not like bacteria regarding resistance to a vaccine vs antibiotic. For example, bacteria can mutate or do horizonal gene transfers to become resistant to an antibiotic, but antibiotics don't trigger our immune system to recognize and destroy bacteria (like a vaccine does). They operate more like a 'poison' on their own (which is why we need to keep taking a pill or IV over a period of time). Antibiotic resistance is a real thing and can happen when people use them 'therapeutically'. Again, this isn't how the immune system works as it can adapt to the virus internally vs forcing scientists to create a new antibiotic formula externally to impact a resistant bacteria. I don't see Covid surviving in large outbreaks in years to come, maybe some pockets, mainly in unvaxxed countries. -
Upstate NY Banter and General Discussion..
vortmax replied to wolfie09's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Exactly what the vaccines were made for and doing their job! Good to hear, actually. This should actually encourage people. Think if it this way, dealing with a mild infection, against a quickly replicating variant, will only help to strengthen our immune systems against future variants. -
Upstate NY Banter and General Discussion..
vortmax replied to wolfie09's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
It's BOTH, actually. The MSM has so many fearing the end of the world with 'delta' that people are now more afraid than BEFORE we had an effective vaccine. The CDC's justifications of moving the goalposts is probably based on delta and its 'virulence'. They should just let things happen as they may...Americans have freedom of choice and they've chosen - let's live, let our bodies, healthcare systems, and economy do what they are intended to do and move on! -
Thank God for air conditioning! I just cleaned my condenser the other week so it should run more efficiently now. Filter and heatsink was all clogged up.
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Upstate NY Banter and General Discussion..
vortmax replied to wolfie09's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Perfect example of that small subset...just trying to say 'we told you so'. -
Upstate NY Banter and General Discussion..
vortmax replied to wolfie09's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Guys, ALL the data is showing the vaccines are working well, even against delta. If you accept the data, then accept the facts, and be reasonable about it. Please don't buy into the small crowd of anti-Covid vaccination fear-mongering people as they are only looking for validation of their decision not to take it. Again, this is a small subset of the people that chose not to take the vaccine. Most that I know, as I posted before, are either waiting for full approval, have pre-existing immune issues, or allergies. They certainly aren't a part of that small subset of anti-vaxxers. I'm not even a pro-vaxxer as we had to specifically find a pediatrician to allow us to choose which vaccines and when to administer to our 3 kiddos. We were rejected by multiple doctors during this process. If you can't, at least, draw the reasonable conclusion that the vaccinated are more protected (forget the percentages, just more) from Covid than those not getting it, then there's really no point in further discussion. -
Upstate NY Banter and General Discussion..
vortmax replied to wolfie09's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
There are multiple demographics at play including race, income, and age. Try not to get too political. -
Upstate NY Banter and General Discussion..
vortmax replied to wolfie09's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Did you get an antibody test? Might confirm. -
Upstate NY Banter and General Discussion..
vortmax replied to wolfie09's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Interesting...would LOVE to see China's servers hacked for the info they purposely withheld from the world.... https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/05/politics/covid-origins-genetic-data-wuhan-lab/index.html This giant catalog of information contains genetic blueprints drawn from virus samples studied at the lab in Wuhan, China which some officials believe may have been the source of the Covid-19 outbreak, multiple people familiar with the matter tell CNN. It's unclear exactly how or when US intelligence agencies gained access to the information, but the machines involved in creating and processing this kind of genetic data from viruses are typically connected to external cloud-based servers -- leaving open the possibility they were hacked, sources said. -
Upstate NY Banter and General Discussion..
vortmax replied to wolfie09's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
$43M / year? Wow, no wonder tickets and food/drink prices are so high. -
Upstate NY Banter and General Discussion..
vortmax replied to wolfie09's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
I've read in studies that asthma in children can be caused by giving them acetaminophen too frequently when under the age of 1. Also, children that swim in pools frequently with chlorine at higher levels. -
Upstate NY Banter and General Discussion..
vortmax replied to wolfie09's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Children were always getting and eligible for infection, exhibiting more symptoms now because the delta variant reproduces more quickly. Still not a serious risk for most healthy kids. The % vaccinated has always been publicly presented in context to the eligible group, not the entire population. Suddenly changing it to present a negative, fearful spin is shady. -
Upstate NY Banter and General Discussion..
vortmax replied to wolfie09's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Including children that can't get it? If so, that's a shady way of presenting the data. -
Upstate NY Banter and General Discussion..
vortmax replied to wolfie09's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
You guys are being a little crazy...on both sides..lol First: 95% efficacy is a mathematical calc of the following (Pfizer phase 3 trial example): Now divide the infection risks between both groups (which is people that got infected AND showed symptoms) and you get: So, from the beginning, with a 95% efficacy, they were expecting at least 131,200 breakthrough cases in the US if everyone got the Pfizer (or Moderna as the efficacy is similar) vaccine, but even more if only using the J&J (66% efficacy). We have a mix here so a lot of breakthrough cases were expected. Now they used the Astazeneca vaccine in Gibraltar, which has an efficacy of only 76%. Breakthrough cases will be even a greater % there. Again, expected. EVEN SO, look at the difference in the pre-vax w/o Delta timeframe and the post-vax w/Delta timeframe. It IS working, and quite well. Second: Now most of these vaccines have very high %'s of preventing serious symptoms and keeping normally healthy people out of the hospital. This is happening and it's a good thing. The 4 of 5 people hospitalized in Provincetown is not a true reflection of the vaccine's performance because ALL 4 were not normally healthy. They had multiple health issues. Third: We can't just lock down forever, but can't be careless either. I think the balance in the US is actually OK. I think lockdowns are unnecessary at this point and will inflict too much collateral damage. Once we hit herd immunity through vaccines and our normal immune systems, however, these variants won't keep getting everyone sick. Most that are getting sick now are people that aren't vaxxed and haven't had Covid yet. Also, once the whole world gets herd immunity, variants won't have nearly as much population to mutate. Delta is only real because of the huge India event, for example. REMEMBER: Covid 19 has a relatively LOW mutation rate (especially comparted to the Flu) because of its 'proofreading' mechanism (which the Flu virus does not have and therefore mutates at 4x the rate). That's a BIG deal and the reason why Covid won't be "indefinite", as some of you say. -
Good. I happened to enjoy the humidity break for a change...
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Upstate NY Banter and General Discussion..
vortmax replied to wolfie09's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Agreed, this variant is scaring everyone, but will be toast like the rest. My hope is that once we get past the massive mutation-friendly events like in India, Covid will not have any major opportunities to mutate into something more contagious AND deadly. We will get there between the vaxxes and general immune system immunities. -
Upstate NY Banter and General Discussion..
vortmax replied to wolfie09's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
ALL Americans (and citizens of the world), despite political affiliation, should want to know the origins of this for the simple purpose of avoiding it in the future. It's beyond logic (and stupidity) that politics is even wrapped up in this mutually beneficial answer. -
Upstate NY Banter and General Discussion..
vortmax replied to wolfie09's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
I have friends that live and work in Libera that went through the 2016 Ebola outbreak. It was scary stuff and nothing we'd ever want to deal with here. Thankfully, filoviruses like that aren't super-contagious and likely never will be - unless we're dumb enough to genetically engineer one. -
We're big fans of Weggies as well, but our local Tops majorly renovated and it's much better now. They carry some nice items even Wegs doesn't. Impressed.
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Upstate NY Banter and General Discussion..
vortmax replied to wolfie09's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Agreed, but that's likely the stronger reason for the Provencetown peeps vs the vax/novax variable. -
Upstate NY Banter and General Discussion..
vortmax replied to wolfie09's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
This is a quote from the article I posted above which provides a theory as to why younger people aren't impacted as much by Covid...interesting: As SARS-CoV-2 first mainly infects the upper respiratory tract (URT), mucosal immune responses are expected to be induced in the nasopharynx, both across the nasal epithelium and via the tonsils and adenoids, which are collectively referred to as nasopharynx-associated lymphoid tissue (NALT) that serve as inductive sites for the mucosal immune system (6, 7). It is possible that responses might also be induced through mucosal inductive sites in the lacrimal duct (8) or the oral cavity (9), although the quantitative contribution of such sites to mucosal immune responses in humans is uncertain. Bronchus-associated lymphoid tissue (BALT) is not normally present in adult humans, but can be found in children and adolescents, and may be induced to form by infections (10). This raises interesting questions as to whether responses induced in BALT might contribute to the reported greater resistance of young people to COVID-19 disease, or whether BALT might be induced by SARS-CoV-2 with consequences for the course of infection.