Fast Pacific flow probably helped keep us colder than we would've been this month as it prevented big inland cutters from forming which would've torched us.
Yeah I don't feel good moving forward.
Congrats snowman19 it seems that calling for warm & snowless every year means you'll get it right eventually like a dead clock.
However if December doesn't play out like typical Nina climo what's to say Jan-March will. So it's too early to say what will happen.
You won't get much with fast Pacific jet pattern. You don't even get the big inland cutters due to how fast the flow is.
There's a good cold source to our north though so we end up on the cooler side of things but it'll never get very cold due to state of pattern.
If December doesn't follow the typical Nina narrative then why should the other months follow it.
That being said you don't want to get completely shut out in a Nina December otherwise it doesn't bode well for the rest of winter.
I would hold off on that until we enter December. Don't like the continued +EPO and strengthening Alaskan vortex.
Also lack of Atlantic blocking is concerning.
March is the other cooler month and if November played out that way this year I wouldn't be surprised to see another cold March.
Also think Jan & especially Feb torches unless there's massive blocking. Also hoping we see a 2017-2018 winter play out.
I think mood flakes are becoming more possible Sunday with potential for something more.
Really depends on how much the shortwave is able to dig. We do have cold air around which is positive.
Surprised no one's talking about this. Really nice western ridge ahead of this with cold supply in the east
Classic phase change in the tellies as well. -NAO/AO rising, + PNA
He's going to say snowless torchy winter ever year. It's like JB saying cold, snowy winter every season.
Eventually they'll end up correct though JB less so given today's climate.
I suppose this year has more potential to go wrong than other years. A warm 11/12 style winter wouldn't surprise me given how much negatives there are to overcome.
I feel like the northeast is about to become a secondary tornado alley in several years.
I still couldn't believe the look & strength of the tornadoes in NJ this summer.
Models will correct colder as we get closer to December. Active pacific jet is muddling the model data.
The run to run model shifts are jarring and anyone thinking the forecast is set in stone is fooling themselves.
So far the Nina has remained coupled.