LakeEffectOH

Nice fat flakes here. Can't wait until the wind picks up!

Thanks for the update! Yeah, I bet they will have to force themselves to issue an advisory. They had no mention of snow/blowing snow in their latest Haz Wx Outlook. You would they would have mentioned something.

As you guys know, the Cleveland NWS seems to be averse (being nice here) to issuing winter weather warnings. I remember when the March 2008 snowstorm was approaching/occurring, all of Ohio was under a blizzard warning except for the Cleveland CWA which stuck to winter storm warnings. ...Funny how northern IN and western NY are under a winter weather advisory, winter storm warning respectively. For Cleveland, only a wind chill warning. Surprised they issued a warning as it would be in keeping with their style to issue just a wind chill advisory. I'm really puzzled as to why CLE is always lowballing winter events (exception being the 2012 Boxing Day storm when CLE issued a blizzard warning...I was shocked at that.).

Right now it may look like we will be whiffed to the south, but this year, modeled storms have had a tendency to creep NW from where they were originally modeled to go. Lack of blocking may help us out. Depends on how this weekend's New England storm affects subsequent ridging off the East Coast. Don't want Boston stealing our snow. Lol!

Been snowing here in Solon...visibilities are reduced due to snow and blowing snow. Wind trajectory is a little more west of north bringing the snow here. Air is very dry though making accumulations less than they seem when looking outside into reduced visibilities.

...Got about .3" of snow last night here in Chesterland. WOW!!! OHweather, what do you think about Saturday's event?

Cool! I think one thing that has helped us tonite is that there is no rapidly bombing Coastal, yet, to suck all of the energy away from the primary resulting in the widespread greens on radar rapidly disintegrating into feeble scattered blue streaks.

Big heaps of wet snow on my deck...have to measure it. I wonder how much snow we will be getting from the clippers this week? 12z Euro forecasted snow depths in the CLE are approaching and even exceeding 30" by this time next week. Maps are most likely overdone but they really stoke the in me!

I'm wondering when the winds back around to the North & NE, as the arctic air moves in whether or not we will have a period of lake enhanced snows that will drop an additional few inches along with a lot of blowing. I have a feeling the morning commute will be pretty messy.

Yes it is...Good times! Earlier on the radar, there were yellows & a few oranges to our west which indicated sleet mixing in. I wondered if that would be moving NE into the CLE area, but now it is a bright green to our west indicative of more snow. to come. Also the NWS upped tonight's accumulation from 3-5 to 3-7.

Sounds good! This is one of the few times we have not had to deal with aggressive warm air advection from the south and southwest. Doesn't look like it will be much of a problem either.

...Just peeked at the CLE radar and I can honestly say that is one of the best looking radars I've ever seen during a storm here.

Yes, with thunderstorms and tornadoes, the NWS sends out the polygon warnings for localized areas but these warnings are short lead time warnings and are of short duration. Also, severe thunderstorm/tornado warnings are for weather entities that already exist. Localizing LES warnings, with current forecasting methods and technology, would be difficult as what you said about it not being easy to tell where a band will set up (The entity does not yet exist.). Also, LES bands are fickle as they can hang around for hours and dump snow or they can be in and out in less than an hour as they were this morning. Bands/cells can pop up and dissipate within minutes so it can be like nailing jello to the wall.

Like last year when the Legendary Polar Vortex (per media hype) with its subzero cold was accompanied by very little LES. Even lake effect cloudiness was limited.

What a dud of an event. Air is just too dry...that's the problem with these really cold air masses as they come with really dry air that all but wipes out the LES. It's better to have a moderately cold air mass as more moisture is available for the LES bands to develop...an unfrozen lake also helps too.

...I figured they would. With the cold we have now, the second shot of cold (guidance suggests sub-zero lows on Sat with temperatures climbing little during the day) the ice coverage will really increase. Our hope for good LES is either a good Huron Connection or some warm windy storm cutting west (during the so-called thaw the models are suggesting to happen in the 11-15 timeframe) to break up some of the ice.

That/those band(s) will eventually swing back up towards the CLE Metro. Questions are...will the air be so dry that these bands will dry out and the snow showers will be more widely scattered? When the bands or the area of LES does swing back north, will it be another quick hitter minimizing accumulations? Just how much will the reduced open water coverage on L. Erie affect cell/band development? This event has definitely under-performed thus far. Good news is that the GFS, GFS Para and the GEM are bullish on the clipper coming through tomorrow night & Friday. Models indicate several inches possible in the snowbelt. We'll see what the Euro says in the next hour. On edit...ECMWF shows potentially 2"-6" accumulations (with the high snow ratios) across the primary snowbelt. Suggests a couple of inches for the rest of CLE metro.

Interesting how the main snow band seems to be setting up in the Akron-Canton area. Talk about reverse lake effect...

Yeah, it is pretty rare. However, during the snowy 2000s, we had a lot of Huron Connection (HC)events. I remember one big one in early Dec. 2005 when Chardon got over 20" from the event. HC started in the early AM and lasted into the evening. I think the last decent one was in early Dec. of 2010 (really been awhile). Chardon had about a foot and a half from that one. Usually we have a significant HC(>10") at least once a winter, but since 2011-2012, we haven't had any decent HCs. Actually, every winter from 11-12 up to the present has been dull in terms of good snow storms.