Mount Joy Snowman

By 1pm sleet overtakes much of our forum, even ahead of 18z pace, with 6-9" having fallen.

No real changes thru 24 to these eyes.

Warning: The NAM is running. Hide the women and children.

We've been ninja'ing each other all day (that's the term isn't it?) haha. Good stuff Chris.

Sleet battle in York/Lanc all through the mid afternoon hours, then somewhat retreats from 5-7pm. Snow continues as run ends at 7pm Sun with ~9-11" across the LSV. A tightrope across southeastern counties.

HRRR at 1pm Sun has primary a bit stronger with sleet line a smidge north of 18z, hitting PA/MD line, snow at 7-9" at that point. Let's see how she finishes.

HRRR thru 36 has thermals a wee bit warmer and sleet line a skosh north of 18z.

Just for sh$ts and giggles, here is what the GFS threw out for next sunday into monday, just a whole hog coastal bomb. KMJS for the win haha.....

You and everyone else haha. Your post with the skew-t was spot on, how so many people just look at the 850 and 700 panels and assume they're good when it's always that layer in between that gets us. So aggravating for us southeasterners, always fighting it.

GFS mostly holds serve but does bring the sleet line a wee bit further north. It's that 800-750mb layer that always kills us. Need the big thump before any worries arrive.

18z ICON slightly north with the mixing as well, but only a marginal reduction in totals.

We sure have, which is why I never totally rule it out, but it had panels where it was literally showing the thermals colder and further south on all levels yet showing the sleet line further north. Bizarre.

You know it's interesting, the NAM run was looking colder and slightly better at all levels during the early part of the run when it's in its prime range but then kind of fell apart later in the run in ways that didn't make sense. I'm not buying it and think by 12z tomorrow it mostly looks like the others. We hope.

Latest RRFS also throws the sleet well up into PA unlike its 12z run and reduces totals accordingly. Not buying any of this yet but man.

It's a substantial drop from 12z but it's also likely wrong haha. If not.....whew boy.

By 7pm NAM has sleet line up into Northumberland County, extreme southern tier is taint from 1pm on. Holding the line for itself ha. I'll give it until 0z to course correct.

MU is in….

18z NAM looks a touch colder through 30. Keep it coming.

18z HRRR at the end of its run at 1pm on Sunday, with roughly 7-9" on the ground.

I believe the one and only model we haven't mentioned is the good 'ol RAP haha. Here is the 15z at the end of its run at 1pm on Sunday with the cold seemingly winning out and 6-8" already on the ground.

Almost forgot: RRFS - Sleet barely enters Y/L late afternoon but is beaten back, 12-15" totals. Tonight and tomorrow's runs will be very telling with regard to any warm air intrusion between 850 and 700mb, but I am liking the general trends and leaning towards the colder solutions winning out.

For those southern tier folks who are interested, I compiled a sleet summary of the 12z short-range models: NAM - Sleet encroaching by early afternoon and fully through southern tier counties by 7pm but gets beaten back a bit, a true battle zone. 6-15" range of totals across Lanc. NAM 3K - Ends run at 7pm Sun but has sleet well into York/Lanc the entire afternoon. The worst depiction of the lot for us. RDPS - Sleet starts entering Y/L by 1pm and completely overtakes by 7pm but still throws down Kuch of 9-13". FV3 - Run ends at 7pm with sleet line still south of PA border and already 12-15" on the ground. ARW - Run ends at 7am Sun but looked mostly good, with sleet line running through central VA. NSL - Run ends at 7am Sun but looked mostly good, with sleet line running through northern VA. HRRR - Run ends at 7am Sun but looked mostly good, with sleet line running through central VA. Anxiously awaiting 18z run.

Euro pushes sleet line well up into York/Lanc by 7pm but only after most the precip has fallen. 10:1 below....

Haha no worries. I’ve just been running kids around all morning while trying to look at models and post during breaks. Just forgot to respond. No reason, I just love elevation and figured you had a bit on your side out that way, as I know it climbs pretty decent over there behind CXY. Makes a difference around here. I’m one of those guys who can just stare at topographic maps and be completely entertained for hours ha.