Its really odd behavior, and just looking at the long range runs verbatim (which is what I assume spawns a lot of the debbing) it doesn't even look that bad. I mean the CMC has an ice storm at the end of its run and the GFS still has cold on the continent, its not like they are showing complete shit the blinds. Additionally, even if we get absolutely nothing for the rest of the year I think this winter would go down as a "win" compared to what we all thought it would be. Sometimes people just are miserable though I suppose.