LVwxHistorian

2 hours ago, Birds~69 said:

Yeah, I missed that. Tons of stats on this sites...

https://jcweather.com/100earliestsnow2.php

 

I love 12-19-2009 -- "here's your first snow" , 22.5"!!!  Deal with that!

10 hours ago, Birds~69 said:

Latest first snow (.1" or more) for a season was the 1994-1995 season in Philly 2/3/95 (1.2")

I'm highly confident we can beat it... 

58F at 11:50pm

You sure about that?!

17 minutes ago, RedSky said:

I like 1983 with the 8F 

and a boring winter followed 

 

Actually in Jan. 84 it hit -11 at ABE and in March there we 2 significant storms. 

I was interviewed on TV in mid-Jan when we got out early from school from a storm that only ended up leaving a couple of inches 

26 minutes ago, RedSky said:

Btw that was highs in the 20's Xmas day when is the last time it was that cold 

2013ABEXmas.pdf

On 12/13/2021 at 4:35 PM, ChescoWx said:

Sounds close to Coatesville....just always seems to snow a little more in Western Chesco than the Lehigh Valley

I really may have to visit some time.  BTW here's a typical clipping I found from your town: CoatesvilleIdiot.pdf

1 hour ago, MJO812 said:

Cmc

crazy gradient from PHL to LV!!

17 hours ago, RedSky said:

So January's +1 in 67 killed it on closer examination. 

Yup even though Feb. 67 was 8th coldest ever

1 hour ago, WarrenCtyWx said:

December 1966 was a dream month in the Lehigh Valley and NW NJ. How can you top three 6"+ events and a KU on Christmas Eve?

It was pretty good though the first storm melted quick -- record 17" depth Xmas day.

Dec. 1872 is the only comparable December in terms of snow (and cold)

1 hour ago, RedSky said:

Parents moved into their new house in the north Philly burbs in 66 and my mom use to talk about that first bad winter. I was recently looking at the snow events that winter for Allentown from November through March and my thoughts were it was very much like 95-96, but worse because it was a much colder winter. Not born yet I really missed a good one, no doubt winter of yore material and much deserved.

 

 

Actually 95-96 was 1.4* colder than 66-67:  28.6 vs 27.2 (ABE) -- You probably posted just to get me to respond, 

13 hours ago, KamuSnow said:

Might want to check your 2006 bulb, none of the lights after that are working. However I'd include Dec. 8th 2013 in that list for down here anyway, and while it wasn't huge total wise (6-8") it came down at 2" an hour for 2 or 3 hours (see Eagles game, lol).

Phila AP did good:

PHILADELPHIA INTL AI 8.6 703 PM 12/08 ASOS

PHILADELPHIA CENTER 5.5 354 PM 12/08

PUBLIC PHILADELPHIA 4.3 333 PM 12/08

PUBLIC PHILADELPHIA OEM 4.2 305 PM 12/08

EMERGENCY MNGR PHILADELPHIA FIRE 53 4.0 128 PM 12/08

13 hours ago, Blue Dream said:

Did they really get nothing from the big one in 2009?

We got 5.6" Dec 19, 2009, so sad

18 hours ago, LVwxHistorian said:

Big first half of December storms in the great LV, strung together in the 2000s like pretty Xmas lights!

Dec. 11-12, 1960:  10.3"

Dec. 13-14, 1966:  7.6"

Dec. 8, 2002: 8" -- and another 7.2" on X-mas day

Dec. 5, 2003:  9"

Dec. 9, 2005:  9.1" and 14/-2 on the 14th (2nd earliest sub-zero ever).

 

And last year we had 11.5" on the 16-17th.

 

Opps forgot Dec. 14, 1917 - 12"

12 hours ago, Newman said:

I'd throw in the early December 2017 storm as well. Ended up with 6-8" in Berks

Airport only got 4.9 on Dec. 9, 2017 but as much as 7.5" at Schnecksville, Neffs and Wind Gap

12 hours ago, KamuSnow said:

Might want to check your 2006 bulb, none of the lights after that are working. However I'd include Dec. 8th 2013 in that list for down here anyway, and while it wasn't huge total wise (6-8") it came down at 2" an hour for 2 or 3 hours (see Eagles game, lol).

Lol!  Dec. 14, 2013 -- 6.8" (13.7 for the month), 11" at Pen Argyl

Big first half of December storms in the great LV, strung together in the 2000s like pretty Xmas lights!

Dec. 11-12, 1960:  10.3"

Dec. 13-14, 1966:  7.6"

Dec. 8, 2002: 8" -- and another 7.2" on X-mas day

Dec. 5, 2003:  9"

Dec. 9, 2005:  9.1" and 14/-2 on the 14th (2nd earliest sub-zero ever).

And last year we had 11.5" on the 16-17th.

7 hours ago, ChescoWx said:

Now before our LV friend says all of the data is invalid blah blah....I of course have never used or presented any other Chester County sites for my data analytics or weather website ever until we started this fun little thread. I have for the last 23 years focused entirely only on Coatesville PA weather data as it represents the ONLY complete data set from 1894 and updated through today for ALL weather parameters and has zero gaps in any observation data. I have never done any QC on the other sites in the County and simply reported them on this thread to corroborate analysis for Coatesville which I have done in this thread - even though LV doesn't like it.

Well it at least warrants you checking all the other years.  Feb 1895 I already mentioned.

You mentioned Malvern 30 inches in Jan. 2016 -- that's not official enough for the list (not a COOP)?

8 hours ago, ChescoWx said:

Can't delete factual history that has been in existence for over 100 years because you dislike the facts.....just sayin

It isn't whether I like or dislike it -- I already said that I don't have a personal vendetta or stake in this, it's just when I see something so outlandish, I feel compelled to speak up.

I would accept if I'm proven wrong, but nothing you've presented so far has done that, and in fact some of it has bolstered my position!

Did you find any other station with any snow at all in April 1895?  (Here's a hint: You won't). 

 And if you got tabulated data for West Chester for April 1895 showing over 20" (or any amount for that matter) from NCDC, then it just shows the quality control that they've been doing so far:  they just accept completely incorrect data just like you do.

It's hard to believe that you just believe it without simply checking other stations. That's how you validate this stuff, looking at other stations and newspapers - the only 2 ways I know!!

It's not difficult for me so i can't understand why it's so hard for ya'll!!!

2 hours ago, ChescoWx said:

Below are the Top 10 snowstorms and the location that reported the snow totals across all National Weather Service Cooperative (COOP) locations in Chester County PA since record keeping began back in 1893

I won't even respond till you get rid of 1, 3, 7 and 8

29 minutes ago, Newman said:

Who called my name

LOL

31 minutes ago, ChescoWx said:

Hey LVwxHist guy - to help get you back on track away from this strange historical snow witch hunt....since you are the LV wx guy - post some actual stats for the Lehigh Valley and we can see how different the weather is from there vs. Chester County PA. For starts why don't you post the top 20 snowstorms for the LV and we can compare and contrast against all of the Chesco sites - thanks!!

I may do that, though a comparison with Chesco is not all that important -- the Lehigh Valley has a first order station and is much more important historically, economically and in most other ways than chester county backcountry with your incompetent old weather observers, LOL.

37 minutes ago, The Iceman said:

You and Newman may not care, but the people who keep track of these records (i.e NCEI) care very much, as do I.

And of course most of these are multi-day storms, like Feb 1903 when they both got 10 inches total.  I like my chances with NCEI more and more every day!

But most of your initial data is absolutely wrong!! 

And even when WC got more than Coatesville, it's just a little more -- which has been my point all along -- the differences should be negligible, which you so aptly proved for me -- Thank you!!!!

And here's West Chester's April 1895 since you seem to be too lazy to go NCEI -- simply rewriting precip. more legibly in snowfall column

WCApril1895.pdf

Let me repeat:  there was no snowfall anywhere in the region in April 1895!  None anywhere 

And your data for Feb 8, 1895 is incorrect: they both had 10 inches on the 8th and Coatesville had another 10" the day before -- ANOTHER inflated storm total -- I love it, more ammo for me!!!

This is like Mike Tyson beating down some punk kid from the street LOL!!

WCFeb1895.pdf

CoatesilleFeb1895.pdf