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Is the pattern doing a major change to allow us to finally get our first significant snowfall of the season region-wide for SNE as we head into January and increasing daylight? No. no it is not.

Well i suppose RI is in east coast megalopolis. And unlike Sierra and even Reno-Targeting systems, a more-Easter might bury millions of people in snow in one fell swoop. Eastern California and Western NV is sort of more sparsely populated, with more transient types. And The entire Washoe County has way less than half the population as RI, over three times the area size that possesses a vast array of microclimates. On second thought too the flood of ‘97 was definitely far more destructive, and lethal, than 2005

I’m Part of the reason that flood was so bad was not just because it was a very warm atmospheric river… but also because it slammed into California and Nevada RIGHT AFTER THE REGION EXPERIENCED SEVERAL HEAVY SNOWFALLS WITH LOW SNOW LEVELS!!! Just Before that flood, We had deep snow all over Reno and Western Nevada as well as the mountains. I talk about the Bain of low snowfall in Sparks… well when that atmospheric river hit, our house in Sparks had 6 inches of snow on the ground and other parts of Reno had 12 to 18 inches. NeverMind the mountains. So yeah it was a recipe for disaster. You might recall a similar flood happened in 2004-2005. That year there was 2 to 3 FEET of snow all over Reno. Followed by a flood but this flood IIRC was not as devastating. I wasn’t living there in 2005 I was in Rhode Island getting buried in Nor’easters.

What you wrote here is exactly the thing that caused me a great deal of angst and frustration as a teenager. And you know I lived on a hill in East Sparks that gave me a very wide panoramic view of Downtown Reno and the Sierra Nevada…. I saw everything. The views when storms made it down into the valley were amazing to watch. It’s just that it didn’t happen enough for my liking and I was beset with a few mild winters between the ages of 14 and 17. But, yeah. Super rage when Donner would get smoked and we would get wind and sprinkles Hell, you could see even the foothills get smoked… and see them all shiny and white after a storm…. In which the snow level made it down to about 200 feet above my house so the front yard was bare but the foothills to the west and the mountains behind my house would be white…. Just 1 miles walk behind our house was plastered… frustration station man.

I am looking into buying myself a Kia. I will tell you what. Kia is a good car company at this point and offers rather attractive, competent vehicles. They offer things that are relatively inexpensive even in this economy. $22000 out the door for a Kia Soul loaded with tech. Now the main point of my post is that I am disturbed about the trends in Automobile business. Car companies are starting to phase out…. Cars. They are beefing up marketing of the ubiquitous and industry-wide monotonous crossover unibody SUVs These SUVs are nice vehicles, it’s just that the problem is they cost Forty Five Thousand Dollars. It concerns me that the industry might end up getting rid of options that cost around $25,000, and many Americans might no longer be able to afford any vehicles because Economy Car options are starting to go away. I would like to think that the purchasing power of the hands of Americans will force auto makers to continue to produce economy options even if there are less variants to purchase… but considering the fact I am a millenial and a very large fraction of us and Gen Z have been long-priced out of the option of buying a home, I am not totally confident. of course, people really need cars to get to work so that alone should apply force in the auto industry and their offerings.

It’s good everyone in your family is Ok. As far as mine, most of us have not been sick in several years. The last time I had a cold was in 2016. Early in the spring of 2020 my mom got a bizarre aggressive case of viral pink eye. Not much testing at that point unless you were in the hospital but we think that she might have had covid.

We have light snow falling. A very light coating of snowflakes is on the ground and everywhere. We have thus far managed to accumulate a dusting. the snow has a crispy texture to it… suggestive of possible mix of sleet to come?

Very jealous. Even the lowest parts of the city of Reno and Sparks got about 4 inches in the ground. That isn’t a whole lot for them and Reno can get more snow by far but this specific pattern hasn’t been a record setter for Reno due to periodic higher snow levels causing the city to get rain.

There are some things in my opinion that you don’t NEED to buy organic. In fact some things it’s BS. Milk is not one of those things. It is seamount to buy organic milk. Organic milk doesn’t have bizarre-o hormones in it. Organic milk doesn’t go bad in a week. ORGANIC MILK HAS A SHELF LIFE OF AROUND A MONTH, even longer if you haven’t opened it. I get a gallon and a half, spread among three 1/2 gallon cartons, at Costco. Runs ya $10.49. The consistency of the milk is incredible. So fresh and pure tasting. Avoid the grass fed milk IMO. Just do organic.

Where east? In the ocean? RAP and HRRR are in the process of removing everything. Frankly now the radar looks more promising than the HRRR does.

I take what I can get

Actually this is a gem. That is a snowstorm.

Odds are an inch is the best it will do. But as to why the NAM is so taken with this is what I find curious.

It’s probably is because although model runs show accumulating snow taking place in CT later, they dont show so much of it happening in PA. And PA is where the stuff is right now. That’s why it looks bad. or maybe less of a cause and effect thing here but more of a… this is consistent with that dealio.

It’s not great. There is some weird looking showers over PA right now. They’re scant. What we need to not get anything is for nothing to blossom as it is reaching SNE.

Why are some 18z (namely the NAM) getting psycho about jacking CT tonight?

“Truckee” actually spans about a 500 plus elevation range. If you’re in the super fancy homes in the higher slopes you’re probably looking at 300 inches. Especially as you get toward Donner Summit and points higher. Donner lake is at just under 6000 feet and they get less, I’m guessing around 100 inches a year. I can second that the airport of both Tahoe and Truckee are in a basin/valley several miles east of the Sierra crest. These spots are well under 6500 feet and are in a mild rain shadow. I did sorta mean the “area” when stating they’ve got some stuff the highest snowfall in the lower 48. Traditionally the northern Sierra has wetter winters than many areas of the Rockies and thus higher snowfall, but in recent years they’ve been seeing some declines in both snow and precip in general…. And climatologists are kinda panicky about this for several reasons. The area might be one of the snowiest places in North America, at least on the California side of it, but that probably won’t be forever.

06z runs blow. Suck. Whatever: the bad one Multi love got me on my knee. We were one. Then become three. Mama what have you done to me? I’m half crazy.

The 00z runs were a boost for the near term treat, but they eroded the signals for a big one next week didn’t they.

Several models are doing this now…. I take what I can get, but still this overall regime so really resisting going full on snow mode. I’m seeing hints of a pattern change toward that…. But nothing more.

I wish there was a California/Nevada section in addition to a PNW section. What do people out there not like talking about the weather? Well in case anyone from Northern Nevada comes around here imma talk about comparing Reno’s climate to Southern New England…. Especially in regards to winter weather. Mogul, Nevada gets 3 times as much snow as East Reno and Sparks. But Sparks gets 3 times as much snow as Fernley. Reno is a steppe transition zone between a mountainous semi-evergreen-forested climatic deal that is similar to Golden, Co (Mogul), a true High elevation metro Steppe climate (Reno/Sparks), and a bona-fide total desert (Fernley). This entire transition takes place over a west-east span of 25 miles as the crow flies. Mogul/Verdi area gets about 35-55 inches of snow per year. Sparks about 15 inches annually, and Fernley gets shit. Maybe 5 inches annually and that average is due to rare freak desert storms. But the golden-colored spur of the Pah Rah range that lies between Sparks and Fernley is a weird enigma that sometimes serves to fire up thunderstorms over east sparks due to orographic lifting as a consequence of afternoon Washoe Zephyrs, or in retrograde patterns. Also, that spur of the Pah Rah range is home to some of the nicer Sparks properties on its west foothills. I know this because I actually grew up in a house on that hill. The upper elevations of that cluster of hills actually reaches about 6000 feet at its peak… and I believe a NORAD or maybe an Airplane radar deal thingie sits on the plateau-like peak. And a cat litter mine and some radio antennas. This peak gets significantly more snow than people realize, due to its elevation, despite the fact it still lies within the strict rain shadow of the Sierra. Carson City also gets more snow than the eastern side of Reno…. Not so much because of the slight elevation advantage, but because the rain shadow cast by the Carson range and Sierra is more severe for the lower valley of Reno and Sparks, especially if you get a southwest flow. Snowfall average varies quite a bit even from one part of the Valley to another in Reno, even if the elevation is the same. Actual Proximity to Peavine and the Carson range can be more important than a 200 or 300 foot elevation advantage that is had by hills between east Sparks and Spanish Springs. North Valleys are their own animal, but if you’re at or above about 4800 feet in those valleys (which excludes lower Sun Valley), you’re going to still do much better with snowfall than at the frickin’ Reno airport Very nuanced shit here. People throw around the 4500 foot figure for discussing the Reno elevation. Spanish Springs and downtown Reno are at 4500 feet thereabouts but seriously the metro area ranges from about 5500 feet at the highest suburbs above the southwest corner of McCarran Blvd, to actually just below 4400 feet if you are standing on the banks of the Truckee river just as it is exiting the east side of Sparks and the Truckee Meadows in general. But If you like snow you don’t want to be in that canyon at 4395 feet, trust me. The worst snow averages in the general region are probably had somewhere in the valley where Fallon sits. Or the west shore of Pyramid Lake. The lowest valley in the region is Dixie Valley. It seriously stands out by sitting at 3300 feet. This is substantially lower than any place in Northern Nevada

Southern New England has significant variations of snow. I’m getting a bit wild with this post, but this is banter so if you feel like reading it, then Go ahead. What you are about to read is what I just did on Reddit in r/Reno. Mogul, Nevada gets 3 times as much snow as East Reno/Sparks. But Sparks gets 3 times as much snow as Fernley. 45 inches / 15 inches / 5 inches annual. It’s almost like a Worcester/Tiverton/Nantucket type deal, except worse. And more complicated. But the golden-colored spur of the Pah Rah range that lies between Sparks and Fernley is a weird enigma that sometimes serves to fire up thunderstorms over east sparks due to orographic lifting as a consequence of afternoon Washoe Zephyrs, or in retrograde patterns. Also, that spur of the Pah Rah range is home to some of the nicer Sparks properties on its west foothills. I know this because I actually grew up in a house on that hill. The upper elevations of that cluster of hills actually reaches about 6000 feet at its peak… and I believe a NORAD or maybe an Airplane radar deal thingie sits on the plateau-like peak. And a cat litter mine and some radio antennas. This peak gets significantly more snow than people realize, due to its elevation, despite the fact it still lies within the strict rain shadow of the Sierra. Carson City also gets more snow than the eastern side of Reno…. Not so much because of the slight elevation advantage, but because the rain shadow cast by the Carson range and Sierra is more severe for the lower valley of Reno and Sparks, especially if you get a southwest flow. Snowfall average varies quite a bit even from one part of the Valley to another in Reno, even if the elevation is the same. Actual Proximity to Peavine and the Carson range can be more important than a 200 or 300 foot elevation advantage that is had by hills between east Sparks and Spanish Springs. North Valleys are their own animal, but if you’re at or above about 4800 feet in those valleys (which excludes lower Sun Valley), you’re going to still do much better with snowfall than at the frickin’ Reno airport Very nuanced shit here. People throw around the 4500 foot figure for discussing the Reno elevation. Spanish Springs and downtown Reno are at 4500 feet thereabouts but seriously the metro area ranges from about 5500 feet at the highest suburbs above the southwest corner of McCarran Blvd, to actually just below 4400 feet if you are standing on the banks of the Truckee river just as it is exiting the east side of Sparks and the Truckee Meadows in general. But If you like snow you don’t want to be in that canyon at 4395 feet, trust me. The worst snow averages in the general region are probably had somewhere in the valley where Fallon sits. Or the west shore of Pyramid Lake. The lowest valley in the region is Dixie Valley. It seriously stands out by sitting at 3300 feet. This is substantially lower than any place in Northern Nevada. My climatic discussion of the Reno area (called the “Truckee Meadows”) is just discussing that metro area. I could really get wild by getting into the adjacent Sierra Nevada. And Truckee, oh boy… Truckee gets more snow than ANYWHERE in New England unless you’re on Mt. Washington. I think only the U.P. Of Michigan can compete.

Some of the best light to moderate events never show up 4-6 days out. Rather, they sort of sneak in at a 48-84 hour distance like this. In fact the last snow in CT did just that.

Excuse me. Am I correct for suggesting that, in the 1990s and 2000s Southern New England really did stand out by being more expensive than most parts of the country, but nowadays other markets have surpassed the cost of living in Southern New England, and now states like Rhode Island and Connecticut are still on the pricey side, but no longer at the same caliber of expensive when compared with other places? I feel like the cost of living here has remained comparatively stable while other states have inflated for the past 20 years.

Merry Costanza