Jeff Grann

Spring is a month away. When I grew up on SI in the 70's,nobody was worried about baseball field conditions In February

Around 3 here in Cornwall by Storm King

Hit 32 in Cornwall on Hudson before 1am and took until after 4:30 to hit freezing in West Point only 4 miles South. That being said it's becoming a skating rink on all untreated surfaces at West Point in last half hour

Best way for you to forecast in the future is to take your gut feelings and go 180 degrees opposite. You may indeed wind up as one of the most accurate on the board..

Yes. I'm sure you will enjoy daily 80 degree weather all winter long like Havana.

LOL....Our generation is still at work after 4:45 and after the 1-2 hr commute from the city home, dinner is after 7 for many. We also walk the dog after dinner and then sit down in our recliners and unwind by watching a baseball or hockey game before bed...A foreign concept to those immersed in Tic Tok and what Khloe Kardashian is doing all day.

That's close to what I got in Cornwall on Hudson.

Nothing went dormant in SW Florida that I noticed in Winter besides the bugs. Things may have grown a bit slower but all my tropical trees and plants were still vibrant

Didn't easily find climate data for those small locations. That's why I chose San Juan

I would even reluctantly accept the logic that the subtropics begin South of the line where most everything isn't dormant or dead during Winter.

Ok. So we will lump the Equator to NYC as tropical/subtropical and North of there to the Pole as Arctic or sub Arctic. Sounds simple

Tropical: San Juan PR. Every month averages between 83-88/ 73-78 Sub Tropical: Ft.Myers 72-90/ 57-77 New York City 39-85/ 26-69

I'll just redefine the shoreline of the East Coast a desert. What the hell. ..The beaches are full of sand. There is nothing tropical, subtropical of any sort when you take our yearly average high/low temperature as the standard for our climate

No. I gave you the dictionary definition of subtropical. We are not a region adjacent to the tropics. Unless you refine 1200 miles as adjacent.