rcostell

Some folks don't- agree with you. Even in this forum, science based that its' nature is- there are degrees of non-acceptance- lots of distractions. Its the decison makers or disrupters that really count in the long run.

I respect and admire this forum (and your experience) and agree with your opinion. Hate to see you all not on same page with the science. "Chicken Little"? You can kiss my Irish ass.

I see the problem as OUR earth is warming to the point of irrefutable atmospheric change that is now altering global processes and harming ecosystems with no cohesive plan to stop... while we argue about politics.

But, again: The original post was too political/opinionated for this forum. No value added here. Lets follow the science. See my earlier post.

Too political/opinionated for this forum. No value added here. Lets follow the science. See my earlier post.

There's a bit more to the situation, in addition to cyclical change, of course. Theres "pre human" period of time...and "post human" period, ongoing. This link: https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/todays-climate-change-similar-natural-warming-between-ice-ages goes to an excellent short article from an equally excellent academic highr education source. It not only agrees with "natural climate cycles" that are in place as vehemently pointed out here (I agree, btw) AND accounts for another set of documented variables that is acting on natural ongoing cycles. Give it a 5 minute read and see how it summarizes our current (global) situation pretty well. Works?

WRT the purpose of this thread- The definition of cyclical (Def. pretty evident on the internet) is not what I questioned- it was the "cyclical cycle" phrase- my head is spinning Also when you wrote " our"- do you mean Chester County, Pa.? (its only .00038 of a percent of the Earths surface so not a representative sample size to clutter up this thread... ) but forgive me if all the Chester County data being posted in this thread (AGAIN) is not indicative of what you are referencing.

Q: In your world, what geographical area is "our"? What is a "cylical cycle"? "Thought it best" for whos benefit? Thanks for enlightening us...

Sir/Ms- I've been around the world, been through a lot, seen a lot, and pretty sure I'm older than you so I'm fairly confident I'm a realist- not what you are referring to me as, above. The name callling can stop. "Unprecedented" is a real word, with real meaning. I chose it carefully. Did you even look at the video? (again, attached below) For your benefit- I took a little time to find a good example (there are many) that cleanly addressed your words in a post above: "Only if we can ever link climate change to any adverse real world weather events." The video provides actual, visual evidence of exactly that. Of course you can focus on parsing words and personal opinion and a bit of name calling- its not relevant or pleasant- but within your right. My opinion is that perhaps you should get out of your "bunker" in Chester County more- look around and observe ground truth not from behind a computer but in a larger, non-digital setting. Ask yourself why you are online, labelling someone you have never met- at 2.30 AM on a Sunday morning as opposed to not. https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=aiden+robbins+danger+in+alps&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:807a5e76,vid:R0NGujTF1Xw,st:0

Heres a video link that documents climate change manifesting weather changes that have and are causing unprecedented, "non-cyclical" and unrepeatable physical changes to an area and its mountains (millions of years old) I have visited and yes, seen with my own eyes. It checks all the boxes you set out and name-call others who believe what they see. The world is much larger than Chester County, I'm afraid... https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=aiden+robbins+danger+in+alps&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#

OK- Understood. Here's a "link" to a respected institution of higher learning that elaborates on exactly where you are "coming from". Hope you find it of value. https://environment.yale.edu/news/article/link-between-climate-change-and-extreme-weather

On the subject of drought- I'm 66 and have never seen it this dry, this long. Even the natural bogs down near Chatsworth in the Pines are bone dry.

Much obliged Mike. I can give it another 24 hours or so before making the call. Appreciate your thoughts.

Mike- Always appreciate your time and comments in this forum.. Hope I'm not imposing on asking your opinion on the likely hood that a 9 PM Tuesday evening flight out of PHL (to Madrid- retirement vacation) will be cancelled? Too soon to hypothesize at this time? Much obliged on any comments on trends... I'd have to pull the trigger later tomorrow on reschedule...

Calm down. One day you might look back at the data thats being collected at a macro level and have regrets on your current isolated and demeaning positions taken on this board.

I would not bet against it... Gulf of America? HaHaHaHa- good one.

Respectfully disagree, as we stand now. Current low streamflow (drought conditions) and an unimpressive snowpack would work against "major" (as you state) or for that matter, substantial ice jams unless extremely heavy rains manifest. (We spend a lot of time near/in the Au Sable river in the eastern Adirondacks, where ice jams with resultant flooding are all too common. Different environmentals at work there than here.

Saranac Lake Airport hit -22F...

Nice quiet, rural area, there and south...real "South Jersey". I know the feeling- son in Denver, daughter in San Diego.

Tamarack- Agree Enjoy your "home posts" from the North country....Where in Gloucester County are you at present? I live up in Haddon Heights- next county north. Had about 1.5 here on non paved areas- nice to see. Our Camp on north side of Whiteface Mountain in the 'Dacks continues to get slow buildup of fluff from upslope. Was there last weekend and caught a hefty lake effect band oscillate through...nice to see the mood snow her in South Jersey.

Its actually almost 700 miles east and 4500 higher in elevation than "Sin City"...

That occured in Las Vegas New Mexico...not Nevada...

You two are STILL at it- in the wrong thread...again. Granted- this thread is not a hotbed-but some do learn occasionally at a macro level. Your strangling it with the ongoing micro-bickering. Please take it to the thread that was created for you. Thank You

Would you folks PLEASE keep this train of thought in the "Chester County" thread? The bickering keeps spreading back into this "Climate Change" thread. Please. Thank You!

Ignore the rhetoric. Engagement is folly.