ORH_wxman

I think it depends on the jackpot fetish too....would you rather be in a local jackpot and get near normal or slightly below normal snow (ala last winter)? Or miss the jackpot and have solidly above average snow? I'm basing the stats strictly off total snowfall for the season....obviously not accounting for whether Scooter had more snow in Weymouth even if you were still doing ok (like 2014-2015). The two biggest NNE snowfall winters in the last 50 years are 2007-2008 and 1970-1971....one was near normal temps ('07-'08) and the other was frigid ('70-'71). I'm trying to think of some other blockbusters....2000-2001 in NNE, that was below avg temps. So was '68-'69...another blockbuster NNE winter.

Empirically, I think you still want below average temps, though the variance is high. 2016-2017 sticks out like a sore thumb. I sorted the winters in your sig based on snowfall. (I estimate the 2019-2020 snowfall...CON had 46 but you prob had at least 15-20" more I'm betting) If we sorted by precip, it would have a higher correlation I'm sure. (i.e., temps matter, but less than precip)

Tail end of 2017-2018 was a blockbuster period for SNE. I had about 40 inches in March 2018. The true M.A. blockbuster year was 2009-2010. They did do very well late in 2014-2015 and also late in 2013-2014.

It was a sneaky big storm for MA....really only SE MA got screwed

BOS 60F dew and ORH 59F....definitely doesn't feel muggy. It doesn't feel like 40F COC that we get in May, but for July, this is pretty nice. It helps that the temp is 67F.

As an aside, the Euro has been forecasting a big burst in easterly winds across the dateline region....which may provide a boost. The La Nina tendency had been weakening over the past week or two, but we could see a resurgence.

Yes, region 4 was the warmest, with values hovering around 1C above average. .

Yeah I'm not sure I'd even call last year a weak El Nino in the sense that we typically compare to other weak Ninos...it was so borderline. It officially made it, but it basically rotted at 0.5C for an eternity.

Lol...40s in July?

ME is great. Much better snow climo and retention. Brutal springs though. You need to become a “spring bird” and leave every April and return Memorial Day. Lol

The snow climo is awful in PIT. Jerry, you’d move back to Boston within a year or two. Lol. Total snow climo might be “similar” (PIT is maybe 3” less than BOS) but it’s horrendous for 6”+ storms and retention is awful. Not sure how quickly the snow climo increases in the suburbs. The airport is actually elevated outside the city so you probably get he opposite effect as Boston. If you’re anywhere toward the river down lower the snow gets less. In BOS, you get more than the airport pretty everywhere unless you are in a place like Hull.

Most action will be E of ORH today I think. Some stuff could pop overhead in ORH county and E CT though....but the bulk should be east.

Pretty good clearing punching into ORH now....most of SNE should be in the sun soon. RAP/HRRR do show some action for eastern areas this afternoon so we'll see.

I had 27” for the month of December and 17” in that storm. It is almost impossible to have a turd winter when that happens....but we found a way. There is no other winter like it in the analogs. Closest I can think of is 1996-1997 but erase the 3/31-4/1/97 storm...that year had the epic early December including the Cantore thundersnow event and then laid a total turd until the end when we got the big one. This year was similar but we didn’t get the big finish...those we did get a lot of little (to occasionally moderate) late season snowfalls.

Consistency too in the flow. I mentioned further back we haven’t had those classic 58F turds mixed in with onshore flow like we seem to get every June...so usually when we have a +3 June, we’re saying “oh man, there must have been a few 96s in there!!” since we know there were probably a couple 57F onshore flow episodes mixed in. But this year, it’s like just consistent above average but not the “scorcher” days mixed in.

Their max so far is 94 on 6/22 and 7/10

What day did you hit 90?

Let’s get a heat signal inside of 5 days...it’s amazing how often the euro spits out 22-24C at 850 in the D7-10 range and then lose it once closer.

We usually have a few 52-58F onshore-flow ratters in June that never materialized this year. Just consistent 70s and 80s. Late June and July has been very muggy with the high mins. ORH is always a good gauge of the air masses since they don’t radiate. They haven’t had a low below 60F since mid June.

Yeah it’s def been warm and well above average. We’ve been doing it a lot more with the low temps though. We haven’t had those scorching highs yet that NNE has seen several times. I don’t think you’ve even hit 90 yet.

Lol yeah. It’ll be like 78-79 at Tolland and BDL tarmac will put up an 86 and he will go “AWT...upper 80s”

I know some places limped their way to average but they had to use a lot of late season stuff. Late March and April produced pretty well. The big sites like PWM and BTV were definitely below average though. Maybe powderfreak can chime in for his area. (Edit: Nevermind lol)

Unless it’s a shit one like 2011-2012 or 1999-2000. I don’t actually remember NNE getting a lot of snow last year except late in the season. They got clobbered in 2018-2019 though.

Just don’t do what Fozz did us last winter.

I just told Megan that it felt like Maldives outside. Very humid but the steady breeze made it feel like there. The breeze made it tolerable. I have had more wind today than at any point last night.