ORH_wxman

Yeah this is the definition of “fake cold”. Super inverted radiational cooling nights...but if it started precipitating, the temps would be like 44F...lol. Fake warmth usually happens in spring when the sun angle produces an extreme low level lapse rate. Like those days where it’s a high of 61F but 850 temps are -2C so a bowling ball snowstorm could happen the next day.

That system next week is def watchable for NNE...even if synoptically it ends up as a snoozer, it would likely give some decent upslope behind it. Just another step down.

That was an all-timer. Really the only other comparable one in the past 30 years was Jan 1996...you might be able to throw December 17, 2000 in there too. You'll have a White Xmas up there this year.

Ironically, NYC went their 2nd longest white christmas drought on record between 1931-1944....14 consecutive years without a white Xmas. Only the 16 consecutive years between 1967-1982 was longer. Their current drought is 11 years (2010-2020).

Ensembles have been pretty consistent in the pattern shift in the PAC. There will likely be some winter threats in the final 10 days of the month for some on this forum assuming no major changes....obviously in November that favors NNE elevations, but can't rule out further south or lower down either.

I don’t think NYC ever averaged that much. Maybe the late 1800s?

Kevin your low is 32F so far? ORH hit 30F yesterday.

The xmacis site has more options/parameters I think and for the first order sites they are threaded (I.E they will combine the old site with the new site). The climod site though will have all old defunct coops though and I’m not sure if the xmacis site has those. It might only be active sites. On climod2 I can look up some random coop that was only active from 1890 to 1920 or something and I’m not sure if I can do it on xmacis...at least I haven’t figured out to yet.

I’ve actually already done this for larger storms for every season going back to 1950 iirc. It’s on my PC but it prob hasn’t been updated for the last couple seasons. I’ll have to post it when I’m back on my PC. I remember running frequencies of 6+ and 12+ storms at the major climo sites.

You can do this just by doing an Oct-Apr daily data lookup on climod2 or the https://xmacis.rcc-acis.org site and looking at the snowfall column. It’s not super fast since you have to keep changing the year to look at other winters but it’s pretty easy.

Ha I thought about going up to 40” on that Feb 1969 estimate for Farmington but I would’ve lowballed it anyway. That was a historic storm for much of NNE into E MA.

Haha, well I don’t “remember” them per day since I wasn’t alive, but I do remember most snowfall data from back then. Maybe Feb 1969? The Lindsay storm was Feb 9-10, 1969....only problem is that it prob wasn’t vacation yet? Unless it was early that year. Feb 10, 1969 was a Monday but usually vacation is presidents day and that wasn’t until a week later. The 2nd huge storm that month didn’t hit until 2/22-23 and it lasted like 5 days. (It missed NJ which is why tamarack doesn’t remember it but it gave his current stomping grounds somewhere between 28-36” I’m guessing. I don’t think it was 1967 either because after the monster on Feb 6-7 there wasn’t another warning event until late month. 1972 could have fit the bill...though that is 5 years later. Do you remember how old you were roughly? 1972 had a huge storm on 2/19 which would have been the Saturday before Presidents’ Day. Then there was another storm the next Saturday on 2/26 but it was a marginal warning event (like 7 inches or so). The sequence of events matches your description at least.

Model guidance is definitely getting more confident on some colder anomalies later this month. The magnitude is still yet to be determined but we’re seeing across multiple model suites.

Only got to 30 here. But it looks like lots of mid 20s around lower down.

A lot of the really dinky smaller airports are good for radiational cooling because they try and build them in areas with low wind...prop planes and other small aircraft have an easier time at takeoff and landing.

EPS still showing a pretty chilly pattern post-mid month. You see all that weakness in the height field N of AK....that's what you want to see as we get closer...hopefully getting even higher heights there. You can see how the airmass origin going into Canada on that flow is Siberia/Arctic ocean and not the PAC.

It was actually cold almost from the start but we got a couple cutters to interrupt the cold. ORH had a 5 days stretch between 1/6 and 1/10 where 4 of those 5 days had highs in the teens. It was a -4 departure that month. Pretty frigid stuff for peak winter temperature climo...which just adds to how impressive the next month was, lol.

Yep...last legit good January was prob 2018..and even that was mostly dogshit after 1/10....2015 was crap until the last 10 days of the month.

Yeah Mar looks ok....Feb looks pretty good actually...that would be a lot of overrunning type events and big gradient. Even though we're on the northern edge of the oranges, that's a good spot at H5. You can bet below that level would be frigid on the north side of that gradient.

Dec looks excellent on that composite. Agree that Jan is dogshit there....hopefully it changes.

Yes the old records were kept at Brainard

Tday 1971 was the really big one with over a foot in ORH (but mostly rain inside 128). But I believe there was a 2-4” snow to sleet/ice event in 1985 too. I was only 4 for that one so barely remember but we were up visiting from Texas and I remember losing power...it was almost perfect timing since it was right as the food was done cooking. Everyone ate in candlelight. Of course we had the pretty big event on Tday 1989, the day before Tday in 2002, and then also the day before Tday in 2014. 2005 had a smaller event on Tday itself. We also had small events the day before Tday in 1994 and 1996 which gave us white thanksgivings.

Weeklies def look seasonably chilly for late month...agreeing with the end of the ensemble run. So something to watch. They keep a decent pattern into early December too, but the western ridge starts to pancake a bit and produce some ridging across the southern US, almost a pseudo-gradient pattern for a time. Getting out into clown range by that point, but figured I'd mention it.

Yeah there is some higher terrain there that got hit decently...it was mostly like 650-700+ feet in that area but it got bad quickly once you got above that elevation.

EPS trying to amplify that EPO/PNA combo ridge a little more today....something to watch in terms of any chance of winter wx in the 2nd half of the month: