1/24 ain't happening on this run either. As Bob said, energy gets buried in the southwest and will whiff on the northern stream phase. Wrong thread....but it will probably be in a good position for 1/25-26.
Euro is starting to cave....1/22 will come in flatter this run.
I'm hoping we can start seeing better solutions for 1/24 because 1/22 just doesn't have much room to maneuver.
Even if you could model the atmospheric dynamics perfectly, you'd still have to have a dense enough coverage of data to make the forecast flawless. As the ole saying goes, the output is only as good as the data being input.
It's a defense mechanism for many on here to whine. The GFS actually improved a little for 1/22 even though it still misses. Bit I do think the 1/24 threat has more room to work with even though there are still some minor spacing issues with the 1/22 wave ahead of it.
Yeah I get the sentiment....but it seems like Thursday is starting to ramp up....but if we can phase in more SW energy, then it won't matter as much being a detriment to 1/22. We can get both that way....the western variables are more important.
Yeah those changes out west overwhelmed the changes in the east. Those will be the bigger factors, but all else equal, I still don't want to amp up 1/20. However, we deserve to be greedy and get both with the way this season has gone.
It is not the only factor....we can definitely get both events, but all else equal, we'd rather not have this one. There are other factors this run that are helping out 1/22 that are independent of the frontal wave.
NAM def coming in more amped. I'd want to see Euro get on board though before actually taking it seriously. The more amped this one is, the less likely 1/22 is IMHO.
I actually thought 18z looked a little better too. Guess we’ll see if other guidance starts to play ball at 00z or if the euro starts to cave, but 18z was a solid double down by the Euro.
I’m not totally down and out. Just being realistic on the likelihood of these. 1/22 has a real chance but I don’t think people should be getting confident on the Euro solution yet. 1/24 looks worse right now but who knows how it might look of 1/22 evaporates…it would likely look a bit better.
The longwave pattern beyond continues to look very good so I can’t punt winter yet even if these don’t work out.
Lol, I don’t know about “constantly”…but just taking a quick look at guidance would show the EPS/Euro are moderately enthused by 1/22 while most other guidance doesn’t like either storm very much.
GFS sort of likes 1/24 but never really committing to a big solution there and maybe the GGEM is starting to come around on 1/22.
Add it all up and maybe 1/22 has a decent shot (say something between 25-50%) and 1/24 is a long shot (say 10-20%).
Yes it will. In order to get it, we need the front side of the trough to sharpen up and that will push the baroclinic zone down south offshore further in its wake. We don’t want that for Saturday.