ORH_wxman

Icon was a bit more amped.

Yeah that was really amped. But NAM at 84…lol.

I still think 15” is possible. I wouldn’t forecast it but it’s foolish to automatically rule it out. All it takes a strong WCB thump of 8-10” and then limp to another 5-6” with a pseudo-CCB/IVT over 12 hours. Again, I think that’s becoming less likely, but it isn’t outside the envelope of realistic solutions.

Yeah the final numbers will make your call look even better.

Yeah the 12-18” runs were on several cycles and models. Only that one crazy run with like 30 inches was on the euro about 6 days out.

They running the 18z NAM off the Trash 80 today?

Yeah EPS is honking a bit on 3/4. Pretty decent look.

Pretty much same axis of heaviest though toned down some on 12z.

Yeah I’m not super dismayed about it at the moment. If we keep ticking it south then it will be a concern. But honestly, we were getting a lot of north shifts yesterday so seeing a southerly solution isn’t the worst…especially when the shortwave is still pretty vigorous.

The interesting part was the euro maintained a decent looking shortwave. When I frost saw the posts, I was half expecting it to be really sheared. But it mostly was just shunted south a bit rather than getting shredded.

Good crosshair sig there at 90 and 93…I’d feel ok going 6-10/8-12. I wouldn’t go 10-15 though given the relatively short duration of the good stuff.

What does 90 and 93 hours look like? The 6 hourly QPF between 96 and 102 is like a tenth of an inch anyway.

Fwiw i moved the latest posts on the march threats to the march thread.

Yeah that makes more sense based on QPF. I think some were using the “snow depth change” maps which can be low…esp in any event that may have decent snow growth and below freezing temps.

It was basically one run. We’ve had several runs of 12-18” type snows though from both euro and gfs but that was when there was still a bit more trailing shortwave interaction.

Icon was over an inch of QPF for much of SNE. Looked better than 3-6

In 8 hours!

3/2-3/4 period doesn't look as ugly as yesterday did on EPS. There will be a chance in there I think

QGOmega is 5-posted....do you think you should be too?

It is when you cannot control your hyperbole.

Mic drop.....thank you very much

Yeah agreed John.....3/2 is actually showing up pretty strongly in the EPS....some of them try to cut, but many of them are of the snowier variety ala 00z OP Euro.

Yeah there will likely be almost an E-W oriented band for a time that just dumps....assuming we don't see other drastic changes to guidance. If people want to know the most likely thing that goes wrong in this? I'd say it's the shortwave becoming too weak and shears and then you end up with just a steady light to moderate snow that dumps maybe 4-7" or something instead of 6-10/8-12". Most guidance is keeping the shortwave fairly robust....but that's probably the main thing I'd watch for in terms of "Things that can go wrong". On the flip side, for "Things that can go right".....I'd say just watch the NAO blocking allowing even a little bit of additional trailing energy to try and interact....I'm not optimistic on that, but it's still within the envelope of solutions.

The limiting factor right now is duration. The higher model runs were longer duration. It required that trailing shortwave to partially phase in….clearly many in here were biting on that solution (hence the disappointment by many now that it’s trended away from that idea) but I’ve always thought it was a bit aggressive given the pattern. If we can slow this down a bit by trending the block a pinch stronger, then maybe we can bring those back….but I typically do not bank on complex shortwave interactions to deliver the goods. The single shortwave can still produce a really nice 8-10 hour period of moderate to heavy snow though. It has a nice neg tilt and a good high to the north to maximize frontogenesis.

Everything encased in ice here from overnight ZR. Maybe a quick squall incoming