I am starting to really believe 1877-78 is going down this year, or at least we get close. It’s a similar setup with AGW and UHI boosting things a bit. The lack of any snowpack up north after this warmup will only hamper the ability to see normal wintertime temps moving forward. The main difference is the lakes have actually held some ice this season, versus 77-78 when there are many reports of lakes never icing over completely.