Joe Bastardi's Saturday Summary had an interesting map plotted showing years that the Indian Ocean dipole was above average during non-nino years. 1961-62 (15" @DCA), 1983-84 (8.6" @dca) and 2012-2013 (disaster winter). Fwiw, each of those winters had at least a trace in November. I have an extremely cautious view going into this winter.