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No. There was a colder more stable temperature regime. A natural cycle and increasing background warming are involved this time around. Already, areas further south in the Mid-Atlantic region have seen a long-term decline in seasonal snowfall. NYC's winters are nearing thresholds where the transitions took place farther south.
In terms of winter warmth, nothing has compared to the 2000s. The current winter will likely see yet another mean temperature of 40 or above. Prior to the 2000s the only such winter occurred in 1931-32. There have been five winters with such warmth in the 2000s. Winters 2022-23 and 2023-24 will become the first case of two consecutive winters with a mean temperature of 40 or above. Such warmth typically results in fewer opportunities for snowfall. Absent big storms, snowfall totals wind up lower.
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The setup next week is God awful
That must be exhilarating
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That might be the grand finale. Looks warm after.
Hopefully, all of our viewing areas in this forum got snow earlier this week and then last night. If we get one last call next weekend, and then a mild March, sign me up. (However, never ever discount the weirdness March and early April can bring, no matter the pattern. I’ve seen enough in my time on this blue marble to never count anything out.)
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or it’s still 32° in Central Park and never got back to the 20s as forecasted.
It will be interesting to see what the totals will be in central Park today versus the airports
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Models did have the band. They were not able to resolve the very high rates and amounts for those under the most intense part of it. FWIW this banding feature was visible on radar out in the Midwest yesterday. I even commented yesterday evening that it looked like most of the snow with the event would occur at those locations in the band and that it would be near I78 as per the models. It looks like the band actually set up just a bit south of I78. Congrats to those who were in the JP zone.
I agree, and I think that’s my point. They’re a good guide, but imperfect.
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For 95% of the forecast area it was a great forecast.... for that other 5% though.....
Models are not infallible.
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As of about 5.50 am the snow band finally petered out and I measured 11.0" for a paltry 1" in the last hour - usually i would kill fire that lol. Could still get another inch over the next few hours but the main event is over. Saw 12" retorted in Readington and plenty of 10+" amounts in CNJ and 9.9" in Metuchen at 5 am which is very close to my 10" at 4.45 am. Really feeling like a once in a lifetime event for a surprise localized major storm and especially getting 2"/hr rates for 5+ hours. Very LES like.
Happy for you! Enjoy it.
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what did you get out there?
I just eyeballed 2 or 3 or so waking up. Solid forecast.
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Hope everyone who got hit with it enjoys it! Glad to see some online friends get good things.
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yes we love la ninas after el ninos for this, hopefully high ACE but would love for the storms to stay offshore like they did in 1995.
What’s ACE?
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off the charts warm!
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13 minutes ago, mikem81 said:
It snows much longer up in the NYC area (at least on the models) based on the configuration of the precip shield..
I would take the details the models say with boulders of salt.
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We’ve had big storms a day after being 50 or 60. What’s wrong with some of you lol. Oh no! It’s 40!
see: week, this
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End of the month
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Remember the usual rule, 20-30 miles N of where most models show...most show best banding between around TTN and Toms River roughly so perhaps you focus on Perth Amboy/SI south to about Lakehurt for the best chance of banding here as of now....S shore of Queens/Bklyn/W LI might be able to get in on it with a slight north shift
Bring it to MMU.
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Cmc has a coastal signal
Can you be more specific? For when? TIA!
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Straight up vanilla dippin dots fell from the sky last night.
The snow of the future!
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IMO that setup looks absolutely awful for anywhere close to I-95. No cold going into it and no blocking
Weren’t the models having incredible problems in the lead up to this past week and led many astray? Like Capistrano, we can’t help ourselves but go back to them even when they’re just awful. It’s an abusive relationship.
They’re guides, but they’re far from infallible.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers these lol.
I think we had a 2 incher in April 2000 also, people tend to forget these events.
Yes we did. A Mets game was postponed due to that, so it accumulated in Queens.
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Oh cool. We’ll handle it well.
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We done after Saturday
Eh, no one really knows. (See this past week)
The only thing that changes are probabilities. I’ve seen enough nice, early springs interrupted by nonsense. (April 1990 snow, March 1998 and 1999 snow, etc.)
Sure, it’s unlikely, but you never know.
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fwiw. Todays CP below normal temps broke a string of 22 consecutive days above normal.
It was chilly out there today.
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I wouldn't call anyone in this forum a "climate specialist" they are all just giving their guesses.
Here's a fact though-- we've hit +1.5C of warming over the last 12 months and faster than we thought we would. Can't argue with facts. Let's see where we go from here.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion; they’re not entitled to their own facts.
Interesting story published today:
https://www.wsj.com/science/environment/geoengineering-projects-cool-planet-weather-f0619bf7
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Extended summer stormlover74 future snow hole banter thread 23
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