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Discussion-OBS snow event sometime between 06z Thu 2/20-12z Fri 2/21?
NEG NAO replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
How often do you see the words "Snow Likely" in a forecast 6 days in advance ? ZFP from KOKX -
Discussion-OBS snow event sometime between 06z Thu 2/20-12z Fri 2/21?
NEG NAO replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
wouldn't that lessen the impact and open the door to mixing changeover issues in parts of the region? the December 5-6 , 2003 storm was 2 parts so could it be similar to this ? Snow and ice storm, December 5-6, 2003 - Storm Summary -
Discussion-OBS snow event sometime between 06z Thu 2/20-12z Fri 2/21?
NEG NAO replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
plus isn't the GFS OP just considered another ensemble member ? -
Discussion-OBS snow event sometime between 06z Thu 2/20-12z Fri 2/21?
NEG NAO replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Don't worry Walt we won't blame you if things go wrong ! LOL -
Discussion-OBS snow event sometime between 06z Thu 2/20-12z Fri 2/21?
NEG NAO replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
exactly ! -
Discussion-OBS snow event sometime between 06z Thu 2/20-12z Fri 2/21?
NEG NAO replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
I would favor the CMC as of right now because the GFS OP was a complete miss too drastic a change in a few hours and its the worst performing model of the bunch - see if the GEFS agrees -
what is causing the lower amounts on the individual members ? Too far east ? Mixing ?
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if this gets too close to the coast and deepens there will be the possibility of mixing issues along Jersey coast and eastern LI - happened during the Jan 96 Blizzard I remember when I lived in Northern Ocean County NJ......probably in other stronger events also......
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just review some of the threads from the big storms here such as Boxing Day 2010 and the Jan 23rd 2016 storm and so on and see how close we were to figuring it out along with the guidance a week away...we weren't close to a final solution that far out
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seems like most guidance is suggesting the surface LP will make it to this LAT and the only question is how close to the coast will it be which will be determined by a number of factors but a negatively tilted trough would help .........
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IMO should be considering the 250mb jet stream which on last nights GFS was just north and over us which means there is room for the surface LP to move north - also shouldn't be taking these OP runs surface LP locations at face value right now.......
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I like the fact that the GFS has not been showing a 2 feet Blizzard here yet - should be following the ensembles now
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0Z Euro is a region wide MECS for the 20th system Models: ECMWF — Pivotal Weather
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rather not see a direct hit here on the models a week out that almost guarantees a miss here
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the warmth Sunday is no big deal as it will last only hours not days - back to the ice box starting Sunday night through next week........
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yes - I was amazed yesterday when even some well know METS once again got suckered into believing the GFS 9 days out and using it in their discussions when they know it has led them down the same wrong road that far out several times this winter.....
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I wouldn't create a thread for mid- late next weeks potential until the flakes stop falling on Saturday....Plenty of time to start discussing it at that time - if it is still even a storm threat at that time.............
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to be fair it was correct to downplay the storm in some areas like us folks here in Central NJ but other folks to the north and east had more snow - I think we got caught in the system primary to secondary transfer zone here in central NJ and others to the east got the full effect from the developing low that transferred to the coast and also the system was moving fast to the east
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would be hard to beat the 11 weenies I got the other day BUT I said each event would melt before the next one starts up till Tuesdays - was right about the first BUT last nights is harder to melt - because its snow and ice like cement
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Now thats crazy - not 1 -3 Tuesday I think 1-3 is a real possibility north of I-78 for Tuesday
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1-3 would be a big disappointment here - when ag is giving us a 4-8 potential need the LP too get down below 1005
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The Canadian setup is very good with the HP in southeast Canada BUT the LP is too weak off the coast