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doesn't matter how far west the trough is it has to turn negative sooner - if it stays positive the chances of the storm moving up the coast too far east increases

The key points to remember for today IMO 1. the key piece of energy that will generate the trough lalter this week is still far north in Canada and there is sparse sampling up there. 2. The trough down south later this week has to take on a negative tilt sooner than later and further west for this storm to get close enough to the coast to give us a major storm. If it waits to go negative further east the storm will ride up the coast further east. 3. The reason the trough has to go negative earlier and further west is because the upward motion in the atmosphere is on the northeastern flank of the trough promotes heavier precip and this will be centered over the metro if the storm is close to the coast and out to sea if it goes negative to late.

go back to 2010 here and research it -let us know

why today ? I think we will be spinning our wheels today with the ops and ensembles arguing with themselves and with others - one other thing need to get that kicker out of the picture and the trough to go more negative

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models are in windshield mode now - IMO won't be for 2 or 3 days till we get solution we can mostly believe but not totally

thats snowfall not liquid

The EPS from last night showed a few inches - what evidence do you have that it will be all or nothing ?

I don't even listen to them (all noise) - - only well known reputable METS - IMO have to keep all options open this far out

to refresh our memory what are some of his credentials and how did he perform with this past weekends storm ?

I would give it 72 hours at least - like the last storm no one is expectiing a HECS - a 2-4 or 3-6 is more reasonable IMO

you can tell the GFS OP is out to lunch because the GEFS has no huge snowfall amounts south of us like the OP does - treat the OP like one of the ensemble members.

EPS mean still delivers a few inches snow - ratio's probably higher than 10:1 - liquid QPF Map - don't have access to snow map

Progressive flow caused by that LP vort near Minnesota moving east BUT is it right ? See if the EPS agrees with the OP

The lp on 0Z Euro went from a 995 to a 983 stalled off NC coast in 6 hours - BUT 12 hours later deepens to 962mb moving east - weird solution and progressive flow that L near Minnesota is not a good signal with HP in southeast Canada - too far north

The EURO AI moved east from 18Z - this thing has to take on a more negative tilt IMO.

sounds like a flat roof to me - most of the sloped roofs lose the snow faster especially south facing ones

it might not totally "miss" AND there is a reason a HECS has never verified a week after a MECS in NYC in recorded history . Very unlikely . BUT not impossible. IMO

as far west as the Euro AI ? I think we have the windshield wipers on now regarding the models

need that to go more neutral or negative

yes the odds would favor that you would think - BUT it still can be a MECS at least can't discount it yet IMO

I would assume that never happened in recorded history within a week of each other - in NYC. BUT it p[robably happened way back when in that area - Maybe when Moses was still wearing short pants........

So this would be a once in a lifetime event(s) 2 MECS so close together