KoalaBeer

Ya I think I know what you are getting at. At the end of the day it really sucks we had two extreme events happen 7 days from each other on opposite sides of the spectrum. Mother Nature served parts of NH with a once in a lifetime snowstorm followed up with a historic (although almost seems annual) cutter. My friend on ops crew at Ragged says the 4ft is just gone like it was a dream.

Holy crap! Looks like an inbounds avalanche on the east coast..Not sure what kind of precedent there is for that. Photos stolen from here. https://nyskiblog.com/forum/threads/belleayre-conditions.658/page-7

Another epic wind bust...can’t say I’m surprised at all. Literally the ultimate grinch storm. Completely depletes the pack and doesn’t even give us a good screamer. Merry Xmas all.

Any new wind map coming from BOX? Despite how much I despise this cutter I’m interested in how the winds going to behave, and how this will stack up to October 2017. It still frustrates me how little info and analysis is out there on that storm, I want to say @OceanStWx commented something similar this week about that storm as well. It was such an anomalous wind event for the Merrimack Valley. I just have a hard time believing LWM is going to blow to 65. Kind of a “I’ll believe it when I see it type deal” after living there for 25 years and seeing almost every single high wind warning fall short of criteria. It seemed like I hit advisory/warning criteria more often when I wasn’t under a wind advisory or warning for what it’s worth. The 60-65 box i have boxed in seems overdone while the 65-70 in SE mass I have no problem with.

Watch has been up for at least 15 minutes, didn’t look at the time stamp when they issued it but it was up when I posted last.

Looks like an active afternoon shaping up for the Carolinas. I’m going to sip an IPA on the beach and let the dog run around. It’s surprisingly empty out there considering how warm it is.

Or maybe I just enjoy my tropical storm like weather in September, not on Christmas. Oh ya by the way you are a dew/heat hobbyist, not a wx hobbyist.

How anyone even entertains the idea you aren’t trolling in here blows my mind....yes people are upset. Ski resorts, winter enthusiasts, the layman who likes seeing a white Christmas are all upset. I’m pissed of one of New Hampshires all time snowfalls is going to get washed away 7 days after it happened and every mountain I go to will be an f’ing glacier after whatever’s left refreezes...move to Florida Dr Dews. Go join the southeast forum and you can stroke yourself off to the high dews everyday.

The locals there refer to it as the “Danbury snowbelt” haha. I’ll have some photos from up there tomorrow. Bummer I couldn’t get to see it until all the snow settled so much...but my friends up there are saying the mountain is skiing way better then Thursday or Friday, he literally said so much terrain was unridable due to the depth of the snow.

Ya I remember that. Was news within the snowboard community at the time as it was being leased by the Carpenter family. (Burton snowboards) If I remember correctly some people were pisssed because his sons carelessness with drying out firewood caused it. I believe the family generously donated towards its rebuild however.

Single storm max record.

Edit: I see I am very late to the party. Not sure if this was posted. Ragged is claiming 48” total. Still mind blown. I’ll be up there Monday. Trying to get my friend on ops crew to send me some more photos but he’s not much of a texter...I’ll bug him when we are taking laps together.

Ya that makes more sense of receiving that output if it’s auto generated like that. Thanks again for the insight. I guess it’s just the wording I don’t like. I mean imagine that band rots 50-60 miles south instead...even 40” of snow in Gloucester is an extreme impact but no ones house is getting swallowed up by the Atlantic from this synoptic setup. This will certainly be a great storm to read up on once some post event analysis comes out.

Thanks for the response. Explanations from mets like you is why I’m on here! If im not mistaken that graphic is still in the experimental phase? Also is it computer generated or human? It’s not like coastal essex county hasn’t seen numerous blizzards before and this wasn’t even close to the worst they’ve seen. The wording needs a serious retooling in my opinion. Impossible travel conditions does not = property damage with extreme impacts to every day life. Even if you move the 40” of fluff out onto Cape Ann that wording is still absurd. Graphics like that get spread around with the general public like weenie maps do and causes a huge amount of misinformation...and then everyone telling you how you suck at your job and meteorologists are only right half the time

Quick question on this storm for the certified mets out there and especially BOX...I’m trying to search for it but someone posted the impact map for BOX yesterday for coastal zones...It can't find it but it showed extreme impacts for Cape Ann with significant loss of property and infrastructure almost as if a cat 3 hurricane was barreling up the coast. I want to know how that got posted as the minimum pressure of this storm was always paltry compared to other historic nor’easters. Dynamics made up for this tremendously snowfall wise in interior NH but how the hell did extreme impacts get posted for the coast on that graphic!!?? I knew it was BS from the time it was posted. The much stronger coastal low from the week before was more impressive from a coastal flood viewpoint....

Okemo reporting 44” storm total. Absolutely nuts. EDIT: this would break Vermont’s 24 hour snowfall record of 42” at Jay Peak set in 1995. https://mobile.twitter.com/OkemoConditions/status/1339740363632865280

Sent from an old friend who moved up to Gilford. Wouldn’t want to be at the bottom when that snow slid off the roof. Out west you have people die in little mini avalanches every year that fall of there roof and bury them...I don’t recall seeing that on the news ever here though.

For sure I didn’t mean for it to come off that way. I feel for the employees who have to go through unsure ownership changes. I have good friends on ops teams at Ragged and Killington and all those guys at all the mountains work there ass off....I’d know I did it for a few years until I had to find something that paid better There’s just not a whole lot you can do with 40”, especially when that’s really never happened to them before...it’s not like they are prepared like Bachelor or Mammoth etc

Ya I guess I can’t blame operations. I’m just fed up with vail with there lack of communication and commitment. Hell they tooted the horn for weeks they didn’t want to open wildcat without more terrain to spread people out with covid, only for them to open with one trail. Like ya it was about ‘covid’ and not the ‘money’...sure thing Vail.

I’ve been looking around on social media of photos in that area. It’s just insane. Looks like those photos I see of those high alpine ski towns in the alps of Europe that are just buried. Okemo seems like they got 40+...to bad Vail had to buy them looks like they are doing a terrible job of opening up terrain.

The twitter video posted earlier is pretty convincing. https://mobile.twitter.com/VTBrewtopian/status/1339608280784617472

Depends when you want to start counting the 24hrs? Storm max for VT is 60”.

There’s a storm max record of 35” at Mauna Loa observatory in the article I linked! Theres an old snowboard video I have of someone gapping over the road up there after an unexpected storm.

Ya definitely saw people struggling on some of the mountains webcams. Got to know the mountain and stick to the steep spots on days like today. I feel so bad watching beginners and intermediate riders on powder days get stuck in the flats and choose terrible lines.

49.5” the record or is it 56”....hmmm either way here’s the ultimate weenie article I keep bookmarked. https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Summary-US-State-Historical-Snowfall-Extremes