Matthew70

There is winners & losers in any pattern as we all know. Even with the Chinook here in TN it’s been a cold December so far. At least it’s felt & looked on some days like a wintry Christmas. I think I saw where Chicago was off to a great start for snow? Maybe it was the snowiest in some time? Even ND has had a lot of snow. The pattern will change, and there will be winners & losers again with the reshuffle. I just think many have forgotten winter has officially not even started for most. We’ve been cold enough so far in December to actually have snow showers & dustings for many. Anytime you get snow in December is a huge bonus. January is usually dry & cold. February is the usual timeframe for Middle & West TN to receive snow. Anything in January is a 50/50 shot. Crazy to think higher odds for here are in February. So it’s warming up some, which I for one hope it hangs around till day after Christmas. That way I don’t freeze taking down the outside decorations.

There is going to be a pattern reshuffle eventually. As far as part of January being warm. We always have at least one week of warm weather in January. Also known as the January thaw. Maybe we’re having it in December instead. People need to remind themselves that the biggest snows for Tennessee usually occur in February. Especially for West and Middle Tennessee.

It’s truly unbelievable that people say they want snow, but they seem to be more happier with the warmer temps. I call them trolls. If winter is really over like they say, why are they even chatting in a winter forum?

Thank you! Yes hopefully the flu shot will help me some if I get it. Having the damaged lungs from Covid. I need to avoid any flu. I know vaccines can be a dirty word for many but I have to take any precautions I can.

Get better soon. My wife has been battling a cough congestion over a month now. She never gets sick. The flu from all accounts is brutal this year.

I remember awhile back the wx service out of Nashville wrote how a -AO meant cold for these parts.

Any idea how many days this -WPO has existed?

Absolutely agree & well said. Crazy how many of us love winter months. It’s truly a special time of year. It’s great smelling the firewood burning in the crisp cool fall. Nothing like a snow cover under a full moon. Plus it’s freaking great to have no insects!!!! Here is to hoping we all get plenty of snow soon!

Well said. Love learning in this forum. I had never heard of the chinook effect till here. Really good stuff! Thank You!

It’s amazing how if a model shows a winter storm 15 days out so many will say ah that’s not happening. Yet when a model shows dry & warm they take it as 100% happening. Negativity is rampant in many forums. Yeah it sucks having no snow in December but when did December become the only month of winter? I missed the memo that says after December winter is over. I know for Middle & West TN February has most of the top 10 snows. December is running way below average & we still hear winter is over. Good gracious.

All these teleconnections can cause headaches & burn out. It’s like playing old maid over & over getting the maid. Lol.

No reason to apologize, sir. You are a wealth of information and fun to learn.

True. -AO are known to make this area cold. Just curious how the -WPO affects us. Add with that a MJO in phase 8. Good gracious all these teleconnections. Was nice years ago when it never was even discussed. Seems today’s times are so confusing. Simple days of forecasting are long past.

What is the average time frame for one to remain negative? Wonder what effects it will have going into spring. Also with a -NAO wonder what effects it will have.

The winter canceled chatter is quite prevalent in some forums. I for one will not complain for some warm days. This cold snap was brutal. The electric bill could use some rest. lol.

This is a brutal air mass. Will be interesting if January has some that will be worse than this. I saw reports of lake effect snows in NC. That’s insane for this time of year.

MJO for the win Carver you’ve been all over this. Gawx has also.

The old northern clippers. It would be really nice to see those again I do agree!

MJO for the win please!

THIS! Tomorrow will be brutal. The January fronts like this one will be even more brutal.

You can see the signs showing as Carver has said. The warm ups are more seasonal as they get closer. Active pattern seems to be showing its hand around Christmas & after. That really cold air is staying on this side of the globe.

I remember they had snow drifts into July that year. Truly incredible to think it lasted that long.

Thank you!

This front loaded to back loaded winter never pans out when people call for them. Winter has its ups & downs like they always have. The record books are full of examples. I remember it used to be the pacific then the Atlantic then no it was another teleconnection. Throw in SSW & MJO. Honestly many have made winter way to salty. My opinion is the MJO does influence winter much more than the PNA or AO or NAO. Pull a rabbit out of the hat already? Way too many are canceling winter before it has already begin. what makes this forum fun is it’s not constant cancel winter crowd. In my opinion December has been great. It has been cold!!! Plus Canada is plenty cold with snow pack in great shape. After the next 2 days, I myself will be glad to have some warmer days. Tomorrow is going to be brutal.

What is the good phases again for a trough in the East.