the_other_guy

If NWS believes their own snowfall map, why hasnt a WSW been issued for the area yet?

287 special!

Trump inauguration and parade moved indoors for cold. they really don’t like winter in DC do they?

I don’t understand I listen to a lot of people who know more than me and they said the NAM was trash nowadays

this is more of an Arctic front, much more potent air mass and the storm forming. it has similarities, but it’s different

look, you guys want Miller A’s and coastal storms. This is part of it. there is a reason why New York City had such a low snowfall average before the real effects of climate change kicked in. to get a major storm in New York City you’re always on the edge of a rain snow line because of the warm Atlantic and the nature of the coastline. you look at places like Raleigh or Atlanta and they get these periods of prolonged ice because cold air gets trapped in. It’s almost impossible to do in New York City. Off the top of my head I remember it in 1994 to kick off that brutal winter. I also remember it on Valentine’s Day in 2007. We live in an area where it’s either going to snow or it’s going to rain and the difference is not that much. this was masked in the 2000s and 2010s when the storms got so large because of climate change that they just pulled enough cold air in and you had Long Island getting 2-3 feet of snow. I grew up on Eastern Long Island, that isn’t normal…but if you hung around for that 15 year period you thought it was. So basically ride the wave with this one and hope the West train stops.

this is not a rain storm guys. Let’s not get ridiculous here

if you don’t mind me asking, why are you going so low? I think this could be a 3 to 6 inch storm. Maybe more

well, that is a very traditional New York coastal snowstorm haha

yeh and the rest of the region is negative…and not by a decimal point dude. Which tells me HPN is the outlier…like JFK last month

The most ridiculous thing I have seen in this forum. The first truly cold January in a while…and we have a handful of guys on here (and they are generally well respected guys) trying to convince us it isnt cold. ”alternative facts” as Ms Conway likes to say. 20F in Westchester. Weird trend I notice, when FOK area radiates real well…by area doesnt.

I dont even know what day we are talking about not getting snow anymore. This thread…

wind. lots of it

Not a chance

This! I dont know why we are debating this. This is a much colder and standard winter pattern then we have seen since the super nino in 2015/16. Simple facts…not really debatable. Dec and Jan will be BN. Let’s see Feb and March

I don’t know where you were living in the 90s, but this was cold then too. Let’s stop making it sound like New York in 1990 was frigid. you got 20s at night. You got 30s in the day. you got January in NYC

Like living in atlanta…oh wait…

287!

you could just see it’s that kind of winter

Colder in ATL this morning than JFK. although that isn’t unusual on clear nights with cool airmasses. Usually, you see it more for Raleigh and Charlotte. At Atlanta is pretty far south, but they do have the elevation.

see that’s what they don’t seem to get. They rather it be +5 and get one big storm by luck. if you look at this January, all the fundamentals are in place. youre gonna get a lot of little stuff and you may get a big thing. It will click. much better to have prolonged cold in place then pray for a perfect nino track with mid 40s on both ends of it..if you truly want winter

if this was el nino, we would be running +5 or more with a lot of rain and talking about it being too warm to snow

No its not. just stop. you have a cold winter on your hands. snowfall possibilities exist for the next 9 weeks in this type of winter.

what storm tracks have you been looking at sir?

Amen. A real winter. One we havent had in a while