LibertyBell

Weird that it's considered colder than 2014-15, a winter which was at least 5 degrees colder here. 2014-15 was the best winter we had here in the 10s (it edges 2010-11 because 2010-11 had a lackluster back half.)

and even worse, in MAY

Yes March 2014 was a disappointment, we were cold and had some snow, but just a covering to an inch or two when it could have been a lot more. Wasn't that one of the worst short term forecast busts? I remember someone saying the models showed we would get a foot of snow the night before the storm?

12.9 so actually a bit higher. I have good memories of the 90s because of 93-94 and 95-96. 93-94 was the equal of 2 winters and 95-96 was the equal of 3 winters!

Yep so far averaging about 5-6 inches less snow than the 80s in a similar pattern. December and January in the 80s were several degrees colder.

Yeah and it causes more mold and allergies and a lot of other horrible crap too.

High dew points belong down in the gulf. 102/60 is better than 85/75 too. I black out when the dew point gets close to 80. 1996 we had a lot of humidity but very few hot days, one of the most miserable days I've ever experienced was overcast with a temperature of 82 degrees and a dew point of 82 (100% humidity!)

Definitely, I remember how you said the heat in July 2010 was so much fun because of low humidity lol. We hit 100+ three out of four days and I went running.

Great storm but January 2016 was better. They rank 3,4 on NESIS, but I believe they should be flipped and would be if NESIS properly accounted for the 30"+ snowfall reports across the most densely populated part of the country in January 2016.

and a nice westerly flow hopefully lower humidity!!

1980 - A coastal storm produced 25 inches of snow at Elizabeth City, NC, and 30 inches at Cape Hatteras NC. At Miami FL the mercury dipped to 32 degrees. (Sandra and TI Richard Sanders - 1987) wow this is absolutely crazy for March! I think we got some snow out of that too, the 80s were somewhat snowy in the 80s and 90s. Highs: EWR: 70 (2024) NYC: 68 (2024) LGA: 68 (2024) JFK: 68 (2024) Lows: EWR: 9 (1950) NYC: 11 (2003) LGA: 10 (1950) JFK: 12 (1950) Last year on this date, nice and warm :-) 2003's 11 degrees on this date.... such an underrated great historic winter.

we are okay with between 3-4 inches of rain. Our long term average rainfall should be around 40 inches per year, the last few decades were abnormally wet.

Some areas really need the rain but I consider this a regression back to normal for us because we have had some anomalously extremely rainy decades. Just need to control the foliage for wildfire season.

The best place to be for getting consistent snowfall is in the mountains. It doesn't even really matter north or south as long as you are away from the ocean the chances of getting snow are better. The Poconos had 36-48 inches of snow this winter which while below normal for them, in an absolute sense is a good amount of snow.

Yes but the highs are all above freezing, so it's not that bad and actually quite normal for early spring.

it hit 67 on Saturday, that's when we can say spring actually started. These very short meaningless shots of cold are actually quite normal in spring.

wow and thats without any snow cover

Interesting, NYC warmer than PHL and JFK likely even warmer than NYC.

no highs lower than the 40s though

we'll have spring thunderstorms. it's a normal spring storm.

This is why 40" of seasonal snowfall can't be considered historic in NYC, but 50" most definitely is. We have had 40" in warmer winters like 05-06 and JFK received 40" with 40 degree average winter temperature in 15-16.

what are his analogs now? 1955-56 and 1966-67 lol?

Probably. I think we'll still have lows at or below freezing, but probably not highs in the 30s again after Monday.

it just seems highly unlikely we see highs in the 30s again after these two days.

Even last winter was better than this one. People look at it as a *single digit* snowfall winter but it was actually double digits over most of the area including here (more snow here last winter than this one.) And if anyone remembers last winter at all, Central Park undermeasured several storms last winter otherwise the snow total would have been very close to this one and definitely double digits. February last year was MUCH better that's for sure.