LibertyBell

I'm not sure why anyone would be happy with temperatures in the 40s lol. Some of these people act like it means snow, it definitely does not. Anything less than mid 50s would not be a good thing.

I wonder what kind of winds there will be there (and here too)?

looks very warm for the 12th at least.

a blizzard warning with 1-3 inches of snow, I would be poking my eyes out lol.

1953 - Snow was reported on the island of Oahu in Hawaii. (The Weather Channel) Wow, Oahu doesn't even have any tall mountains-- I wonder at what elevation this snow occurred and how much accumulation there was?

I think we are seeing more snow in January than we used to. The 80s Januarys were colder, but aside from January 1987 we did not see any KU events in January. And I don't believe there was a single January 20"+ HECS until January 1996 came along. And now we've had multiple. January 2011 (19 inches)-- I'm putting that in the list because it was so close to 20, and of course January 2016.

12/09 also had a track a little too far east (although we did well here on Long Island-- 15 inches even at JFK.) I didn't know January 1996 had any virga though and I thought that the much colder temperatures resulted in a higher snow to liquid ratio (like PD2 and February 1983 and January 2016.)

Meanwhile see this..... older AI showing signs of dementia. https://www.indy100.com/science-tech/ai-chatbot-cognitive-decline-dementia Roy Dayan and Benjamin Uliel, both neurologists, put several different chatbots through a series of cognitive tests that are typically used to assess humans for brain functions such as short-term memory, executive function and focused attention, and can test for cognitive conditions such as Parkinson’s disease and Alzheimer’s. According to the researchers, they observed “cognitive decline that seems comparable to neurodegenerative processes in the human brain”.

No wonder Boston did the best! If it was a moderate one, we would have (like 2002-03.)

That winter it helped because everything was so marginal. That was one winter where almost every storm trended colder. If you go just south of our area, Philly, they only had average snowfall.

it would be absolutely hilarious if we had a winter like 2015-16 with 40 inches of snow (at JFK) with an average winter temperature of 40 degrees-- 6 degrees warmer than this winter!

an el nino Don?

You have to think those outside tracks are included in their calculations. There are tracks more rare than benchmark tracks-- Apps Runner is one of them. The lack of those tracks is why State College has been in a snowfall drought for a few decades now.

and then you have a year like 1993-94 where you have like 30 storms lol We got snow even in non benchmark track storms back then. I think we only had 2-3 benchmark tracks that entire winter but still had over 50 inches of snow.

Yes it probably has but now it's having even more of an effect. Even in those previous bad years we almost always had at least one 4 inch snowstorm every season.

The 70s and 80s still had more snow than we are seeing now. Also if you go strictly by 4 inch snowfalls, we got at least one of those every year. I generally agree that we had less snow in those decades, but this decade has been even less snowy by a significant margin plus --much-- warmer.

But even using their numbers it still means we should get a bench mark track about once a month. The fast Pacific clearly has an influence. And it isn't just us who haven't gotten much snow this year, snowfall has been historically low in Minneapolis, Chicago, Omaha, etc.

They really don't know our climate and have generally been resistant to climate change ideas. Not climate deniers, just resistant to it. I made a quick in my head calculation even based on those numbers and it still means 2-3 benchmark tracks per winter if we have a storm once a week and 4-6 if we have them twice a week.

Even using his calculations (which can't be right), it still means 2-3 benchmark tracks every winter on average. And 4-6 if we get storms more frequently than once a week.

No that can't be right, benchmark tracks are the classic *normal* track on most storm track maps. Also, inside the benchmark tracks can also be heavy snowfall tracks (see Millennium storm). Either way, in a colder climate, there are many other ways to get a good snowfall event here. Statistically speaking we have averaged an 8 inch snowstorm every other winter (using all of NYC's climate history) and average 3 or 4 4 inch snowstorms per winter.

nice to see even the south shore in the 60s to near 70.

It reminds me of the period between Boxing Day 2010 to the end of January 2011 in the city and on Long Island.

We had about a foot of snow here followed by sleet and then rain that packed it down to around 6 inches in March 1993 and then the cold snap that followed froze everything solid. As far as snowstorms are concerned, February 1983 had more of an impact here (of course-- that was 2 feet of snow lol.) December 1992 was one in which I thought my house was going to blow down because our fences came down on all sides and the wind was howling for the better part of a week and the entire shape of the coastline was changed.

I remember December 1992 as getting an entire week of news cycles. I've not seen winds that strong in my entire life until Sandy came along, but December 1992 lasted much longer than Sandy did. Just ranking coastal storms by overall impact not amount of snow or wintry precip in general it should rank number 1 or number 2 for noreasters (the only storm I could see exceeding it was the 1962 Ash Wednesday noreaster, which I wasn't alive to experience-- but that was focused more on the Jersey Shore from what I read?)

That just makes it a notable winter storm. December 1992 changed the shape of the entire coastline.