LibertyBell

Parts of Fla (including Miami!) have hit 100 degrees and have 110 heat indices!

lol NYC 4 degrees cooler than JFK. Move that equipment! It hit 90 here yesterday.

lol JFK may reach 100 before Central Park does. No one cares about Central Park anymore anyway, it doesn't reflect NYC weather in any way. I dont know why the media ever uses them anymore, they should just use LGA which is far more reflective of urban NYC. I wish the NWS would send a bulletin to the media to tell them to stop using Central Park numbers. All we get now is Lee Goldberg telling us that the wind and temp reports from Central Park are not representative of the area- but he keeps on quoting them and the highs and lows there. Either that or move the Central Park equipment out into the Sheep Meadow (or set up duplicate equipment there and just use their numbers and only keep the original equipment for historical purposes) or some other open area lol. No one really cares about weather continuity from the 1800s anymore anyway, we all know the climate was far different back then.

I bet the south shore of Long Island in Nassau County stays dry- we haven't had much rain at all since the first day of summer.

the high humidity is horrible, I've had my a/c on 12 hours a day the last few.

well for Central Park and JFK, they may be stuck at 1 90 degree day for awhile.

Yea it was being called a hail glacier. I remember this happened a few years ago in the mountains in Mexico too. Not this extreme though. I wonder what the actual amount of hail that fell was? I take it this is the hail equivalent of drifting, so it was like they had 5-6 ft drifts lol.

Wow that's really interesting- I was wondering why we were warmer than JFK! Too bad this doesn't translate to rain/snow/mix lines in the winter though

Anyone hear about the crazy five feet of hail that fell in Mexico? Guadelajara I think?

Is this going to be more borderline hot weather where we barely make it into the low 90s? Offshore winds so low humidity again? Except for Saturday which was horrible.

the northeast needs to have more a/c too the pac nw also doesn't have enough

Even London and the rest of the UK do you think?

We get this way sometimes, sea breezes are far more fragile than rain/snow lines unless the wind is pretty strong. I had 90 degrees or over all four days- 90-93-90-93 The humidity was the worst today.

Excellent account. BTW we hit 90 here, I dont know why JFK lagged behind. There was a NW wind and temps definitely hit 90 on the south shore.

Was the derecho the bigger deal or the F2 tornado that hit close by? By the way I am still a bit confused of the F scale vs the EF scale, why did they not simply reassign the old F scale numbers and retain the name instead of categorizing older tornadoes with an obsolete scale that no longer exists? Like the way they changed the SS scale for hurricanes they could have changed the mph ranges for the F scale instead of having to create a whole new scale, and then the F scale could apply to both old and new tornadoes.

I want that too, if we had a few things fall into place we could have actually had that in 09-10 and 10-11. I read about a couple of 100" NYC/PHL winters from back in the early and mid 1800s in the Pennsylvania Weather Book.

by the way did you see the data showing how - nao are vastly more common in spring than winter? I wonder why that is.

and if things go according to form, we'll have a raging + NAO come winter.

SFO reached 100 for the first time in any month outside of September!

Yes, it's amazing to see the recovery! I hope they are doing the same thing for the Jersey Shore and the Rockaways too!

They have a plan to extend the land around Manhattan too. I forgot by how many yards, but it was announced a few weeks ago.

I see quite a few going for a warm and dry summer but enhanced risk of tropical activity later on along the east coast

Thanks, it makes me wonder how many storms and canes we actually had in 1933, the record which was overtaken by 2005. It's possible that 1933 had more if the records from back then are that incomplete! About the AMO, I wonder if that cycle is of variable length, it seems like the earlier periods of the warm phase were somewhat dissimilar from each other (1950s-1960s), (1990s-2000s), etc.

Very interesting, so there hasn't been some sort of cyclic or pattern change that would cause this! How far back would you say that the HURDAT2 list is reasonably accurate, both on quantity and intensity?

Right. But from a climatological and historical perspective, the SSTs of the northern gulf shelf by Sept-Oct have generally cooled below what is required to support a rapidly deepening Cat 5. Sure, the central, southern GOM and Bay of Campeche would continue supporting Cat 5 intensity through October, but those storms tend to weaken drastically if steered into the N. GOM. Major hurricane Opal being a prime example. October of 2018 hopefully remains anomalous in its mutliple contributing factors that lead to Michael, as generally multiple cold fronts have swept through the northern gulf by mid-to-late September and subsequent dry continental air plus radiational cooling has brought down mean heat content by 3-4°C. Again, it's one thing to consider a rare Category 5 threat in July, August, perhaps still even September, but October? Michael is hopefully the rarest of generational occurrences. Yes, we dont need to have another one of these supercanes. Going by purely statistical records, we seem to get a Cat 5 landfalling cane in the US about every 30 years or so and this is the first one that's happened in October. August into early September is when the others have occurred. The question I have besides this is a general one about the Atlantic basin- has there been some change in the general circulation pattern to increase the number of high intensity hurricanes in October across the totality of the Atlantic basin? I know we have a secondary peak in average activity in October, but it seems like over the past number of years we've seen more major hurricanes in October.