LibertyBell

Right and I find that our big heat summers typically see the big heat start around or just after July 4th! It's all a bit delayed this summer.

Glad we hit 90, 89 degree days are really annoying, if it's going to be hot it might as well hit 90

current society would disintegrate without its technology, it's so dependent on it! at least if the power outage had happened at night we would finally be able to see stars (the real ones!) lessen that light pollution! I think the 1977 black out gave people the wrong idea that less light means more crime.... there wasn't a significant increase in crime during the August 2004 major black out nor was there such last night either.... not to mention that light pollution causes health problems including a higher risk of cancer (breast and prostate) because of melatonin repression.

what kind of "pests" are they trying to kill? If we kill off the pollinators, the pest that will eventually go extinct is humanity ;-) and the rest of the planet will celebrate our demise!

My 3.8 year old self had faint memories of it being really dark and being really scared lol. I have brighter memories of what the Yankees did then and the following year and the winter that followed that summer......

Do you buy this idea of the most extreme heat coming after the tropical rains? Typically, after we get a heavy rain, we have a tough time getting that hot. Also, I hear analogs like 1993 being thrown around, that was an amazingly prolonged summer- do you think we could have something of that magnitude? The flooding rains in the Mississippi Valley also happened that year.

73,000 customers without power so that would be close to 300K people!

I even saw fireflies the other night when it was raining hard- I've never seen that before!

We also had a big black out in August, I think it was 2003?

or 1993, 1999 or 2010 Don may have to revise his prediction of no 100 degrees until August ;-)

With our warming climate just hope you dont see the super nests that have become commonplace in Alabama- those super nests are the size of SUVs and can hold up to 15,000 wasps!

1993 was amazing, we had 39 days of 90+ (tied 1991) and three straight days of 100 and above! The records for that summer were easily broken in 2010 though (despite what the Central Park badly sited equipment might say.) btw there was a half Manhattanhenge yesterday!

and yet Bill Corbell of News 12 keeps yapping about how the north shore areas are the only ones that have a chance of reaching 90..... do these guys not understand local climatology and what a NW/WNW wind does? It's like the people who say "more snow N and W" all the time!

still no idea why the instruments were relocated.....

The most memorable event that year was the Feb 1983 blizzard (2 feet of snow here) although we did have our latest snow event in April, around 2" on the 20th! That made it back to back Aprils with measurable snows, as we had the April blizzard the year prior.

Central Park temps are about as much a joke as a sighting of big foot. JFK hit 90!

Remember I queried about 1993 earlier this Spring as a case where there was extreme rainfall in the Mississippi Valley and extreme heat in the east. Looks like that kind of sustained extreme heat may come to fruition? That was the last time that Central Park experienced three days in a row of 100+ and Newark had five days in a row of 100+!

the GFS has a warmth bias it's not UHI- UHI affects overnight lows much more than it does high temps. Notice how Central Park's lows are usually 2-3 degrees warmer than JFK's, yet JFK often ends up being warmer for day time highs when there is no sea breeze.

Yep this happens a lot, our severe weather max seems to occur in the fall.

But wasn't 1980 one of our hottest summers?

Yes this should be the new way we measure heat- not number of 90 degree days. The higher dew points are far more reflective of our new climate than high temperatures would be.

They already screwed up the data set by moving it in 1996 I was talking about it in my previous posts. I also remember a tangible change in Central Park's rankings compared to the other stations beginning after 1995. Now I see their temps are often lower than JFK's (and lower than the south shore of Nassau county) in the summer. I loved this rain we got! I thought it was supposed to rain until 4 am though. Oh well, at least we got close to an inch! I wonder when we'll get another rain like this?

Wasn't there a September in the 80s that was really hot? 1983 I think. That entire year was really hot and rainy! Wow 1980 and 1983 really stand out for consistent heat in the above list.

Tree ring temperature measurements aren't anywhere near as accurate as meteorological equipment- I'd bet their margin of error is more than 2-3 degrees. Tree rings are used more to differentiate different climate eras rather than measure actual temperatures. In any case, moving the equipment means older data from when the station first got established can not be used- so the only scientific way to do it is to begin record keeping from 1996- the year in which the equipment was moved.

Chris, any idea why they moved it? That right there means they cant go back to look at data from before since the new location breaks the consistency of over 100 years of record keeping