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I am actually more enthusiastic because we didn't see any accumulating snow in November

We must divorce our emotions from what the planet does to regulate itself. The system as a whole is more significant than any of its parts. With that said, I want to go after these greedy bastards who screw with the environment too! I want THEM to sink first.

In the original unedited post that wasn't mentioned. Either way, this "cold streak" was an island of cold in a sea of warmth. Unprecedented warmth was surrounding it on all sides.

Dec -NAO (specifically late Dec -NAO) has a nice correlation to winter time predominant -NAO. Dont know about late November, I thought most of the forecasts were for a warming trend for the end of the month and the beginning of December?

Looks like another offshore low later in the week, by then temps will be in the mid 50s.

like last year lol

huh ABC was saying the record is from 1873 and is 22 degrees too? what weather station are they using for their info?

Based on what we've been seeing the last few years and how this season has started, it's reasonable to assume this will be a backloaded winter, with the majority of the snow in February and March. Maybe something minor in December to whet the appetite?

whats keeping those winds from hitting us though?

the move that happened because people were stealing their stuff? why not just put a fence around the castle....

Looks like there's a coastal possible around Hatteras in that same 11/20 time frame.

the usage of pesticides also has a large impact on pollinator populations. Bayer is a major villain in this. Also read this: New movie coming out about DuPont, PFOA/PFOS contamination, etc., on November 22nd, based on some of the things I've already mentioned: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Waters_(2019_film) The movie is reportedly based on the 2016 article "The Lawyer Who Became DuPont's Worst Nightmare" by Nathaniel Rich, published in The New York Times Magazine.[3][4] Much of the underlying story was first reported in-depth by two other journalists, Mariah Blake, whose 2015 article, "Welcome to Beautiful Parkersburg, West Virginia," ran in HuffPost Highline[5] and was a National Magazine Award finalist,[6] and Sharon Lerner, whose series, Bad Chemistry, ran in the Intercept.[7][8][9] https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/10/magazine/the-lawyer-who-became-duponts-worst-nightmare.html https://deadline.com/2019/01/anne-hathaway-tim-robbins-mark-ruffalo-todd-haynes-dupont-pollution-scandal-1202532048/ https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/welcome-to-beautiful-parkersburg/ https://theintercept.com/2015/08/17/teflon-toxin-case-against-dupont/ https://theintercept.com/2015/08/11/dupont-chemistry-deception/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Waters_(2019_film)#cite_note-9 Inspired by a shocking true story, a tenacious attorney (Ruffalo) uncovers a dark secret that connects a growing number of unexplained deaths due to one of the world's largest corporations, DuPont. In the process, he risks everything – his future, his family, and his own life – to expose the truth.

it doesn't have to be sentient to be self-regulating. It's logical that for life in general to survive for billions of years, the planet must have some sort of self-regulation in place. Otherwise life wouldn't have made it this far. Ironically, it may mean the end of any species that decides to dominate the rest of the planet- because that's not good for sustainability. We may have or be in the process of pulling the kill-switch on ourselves.

Gaia isn't science fiction, the idea of the planet self-regulating has merit.

and they already had their hottest summer ever just a couple years ago

wow that was a long time ago and during a snow drought

Part of the reason for that is the higher elevation in the West. Look at the wildfires in California, which now happen year-round rather than seasonally.

It did? As far as I'm aware the coldest temp ever recorded in the lower 48 is still -70 at Wolf Creek Pass.

I loved tracking that thing! It was like tracking a summer severe tstorm threat! Didn't we have advance warning that it was coming like a day in advance? Is there anything you would compare this event to? Not significant enough to compare it to March 2005 either, I would think?

We're getting one last shot next weekend. FYI I dont mind this arctic blast, it killed off all the weeds and bugs, which made it well worth it.

Don it looks like we'll get one more arctic shot heading into the weekend, and that will be the end of the cold weather for a long time? Any early thoughts on what Thanksgiving weekend might be like (temps/precip)?

Didn't something like this happen last winter during the day too? I remember it- but it was later in the winter. I think we had a snow squall warning?

Most of the public doesn't think of weather people as scientists and probably doesn't even take them seriously. The ones we see on TV seem to fit this profile.

If that happened this would be the only winter in this decade that NYC received near normal snowfall, Don!

It was treacherous driving here in SW Nassau, lots of large branches broken and lying on the roads! 6-8 inches out here, but nothing like the 14" in Freehold NJ! Being away from the sound helped us the previous year in the Octosnowstorm too.