LibertyBell

if we get an el nino do you think it would be like one of the el ninos from the 80s (not 82-83 of course since that was a mega el nino, but maybe more like 86-87 shifted somewhat northward?)

There are other signs that point to a Pacific transition too. And also one in the Atlantic. I think we might be headed towards a 60s type pattern in a few years.

65-68 is pretty warm here too, similar to last Saturday

The early 30s were warm because of a persistent la nina pattern, but 1933-34 was historically cold and snowy. The 1940s were very cold and snowy, especially 1942-43 and 1947-48 The 50s were warmer but had a lot of snow in March and the snowstorms in the 50s were long duration ones, like 1955-56, 1957-58. The 60s were very cold and some of those years were historically snowy, like 1960-61, 1963-64 and 1966-67 especially.

It's good to get one of these a month, looks dry again after this for at least the next 7 days.

it looks like a quick moving squall line. Getting an inch from that would be near the top end.

Option three's predecessor actually started in 02-03 so you could say it was 02-03 to 17-18. I give that the smallest chance of recurring because there is no other period like that in 200 years of NYC climate history.

I remember watching it on the evening news, the prediction of 6-12 inches was spot on.

The thing about both storms (December 1992 and March 1993) that I found comparable is that both storms had a lot of snow inland. You didn't have to go that far inland to have a lot of snow in December 1992, there was over a foot in Sparta NJ. We were raining here but the temperatures were in the upper 30s with hurricane force howling winds for 3 days that brought down fences and roofs and did major property damage and backend snow. In December 1992 the maximum snowfall was around 3 feet near State College, PA and in March 1993 I believe it was around 4 feet near Syracuse, NY. edit-- December 1992 also had 4 feet of snow but it was down in Maryland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_1992_nor'easter The December 1992 nor'easter produced record high tides and snowfall across the northeastern United States. It developed as a low pressure area on December 10 over Virginia, and for two days it remained over the Mid-Atlantic states before moving offshore. In Maryland, the snowfall unofficially reached 48 in (1,200 mm); if verified, the total would have been the highest in the state's history. About 120,000 people were left without power in the state due to high winds. Along the Maryland coast, the storm was less severe than the Perfect Storm in the previous year, although the strongest portion of the storm remained over New Jersey for several days. In the state, winds reached 80 mph (130 km/h) in Cape May, and tides peaked at 10.4 ft (3.2 m) in Perth Amboy. The combination of high tides and 25 ft (7.6 m) waves caused the most significant flooding in the state since the Ash Wednesday Storm of 1962. Several highways and portions of the New York City Subway and Port Authority Trans-Hudson systems were closed due to the storm. Throughout New Jersey, the nor'easter damaged about 3,200 homes and caused an estimated $750 million in damage (1992 USD). The nor'easter increased tides across the northeastern United States for several days due to its slow movement. In New York City, tides reached 8.04 ft (2.45 m) at Battery Park, which flooded Franklin D. Roosevelt East River Drive. Along Long Island, the nor'easter destroyed over 130 homes and left 454,000 people without power. In New England, 230,684 people lost power during the storm. Five houses were destroyed in Massachusetts, and flooding reached 5 ft (1.5 m) deep in Boston. Further inland, the storm produced significant snowfall, estimated at around 4 ft (1.2 m) in The Berkshires. The high snow totals closed schools for a week in western Massachusetts. Overall, the storm caused between $1–2 billion in damage (1992 USD) and 19 deaths, of which four were directly related to the storm.

it's normal for them to get snow in March and April like this though. Their March is like our January and their April is like our February.

This is the only comparable storm to December 1992, albeit more focused on the Jersey Shore rather than NYC and Long Island 1962 - A tremendous storm raged along the Atlantic coast. The great Atlantic storm caused more than 200 million dollars property damage from Florida to New England. Winds along the Middle Atlantic Coast reached 70 mph raising forty foot waves, and as much as 33 inches of snow blanketed the mountains of Virginia. The Virginia shoreline was rearranged by historic tidal flooding caused by the combination of the long stretch of strong onshore winds and the Spring Tides. (David Ludlum)

also blocking this late in the season doesn't have to mean cold.

it doesn't even look cold, average, temps in the 50s.

it doesn't look cold, just average

I didn't miss it, I knew it was going to snow and snow a lot so I woke up at 3 am to see it from my street lights.

weird, I'm near the ocean and there's no wind here and we're usually the first to get the wind.

The only time I like the wind is when it's raining or snowing.

too cloudy. Next week will be enjoyable

We need more prescribed burns and get rid of this excess brush and foliage we don't need.

I feel the same way about using 30 year climate averages for rainfall like you do for using them for temperatures, Chris. Our average rainfall should be around 40 inches not the 48-50 inches the anomalous 30 year average states. I like to use the 1951-1980 average for rainfall as well as temperatures. Or 1961-1990.

By the way we are doing prescribed burns in Nassau County right now, this is what every county should be doing.

I'm not sure how many people like wet summers lol. Average rainfall in summer is fine, but we really do not need more than 4 inches of rain in any month.

On a different topic, I really hate the definition of *blizzard* We should have a separate warning for *ground blizzard* which does not involve heavy snow falling. And a separation definition for an *extreme blizzard* that involves at least 10 inches of snow falling in 12 hours or 20 inches of snow falling in 24 hours accompanied by high winds. And an *extreme snow warning* for that same amount of snow without the high winds.

What I found so disappointing about that storm was having waited a whole decade for the successor to February 1983, I wanted an area wide 20 inch blizzard. My thirst wasn't satisfied until January 1996. WABC7 on the day of the storm came in (as did 1010WINS radio) and said that the storm track had changed and it was now going to track over Montauk and we'd all get 20+ inches of snow, which didn't happen of course.

Do you think we had more ice in March 1993 or March 2007-- which was 5-6 inches of sleet here.