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Wow Rochester is even more amazing, although the deficits look about the same. Do they ever think about transporting some of that Buffalo snow farther east? Although it's probably all melted by now.

Pennsylvania Weather Book and I remember seeing some really old records in a weather almanac all the way back to the 1700s for NYC (I don't remember the exact location) when I was at the New York Public Library. Back then both January and February had mean temperatures in the 20s and February was consistently colder than January. Both NYC and PHL peaked with 100" snowfall seasons a few times and the all time record low was -16 at NYC in January pre Revolutionary War when canons were being dragged across the Hudson and shops were set up right on the river in the winter.

papyrus is tough to write on

it's more like neutral which is actually worse than a la nina

when we get to the warm(er) season there will probably be much less rain. I'm thinking we get a 2002 type spring and summer-- which will be nice.

If this is what it takes to end the drought out west, we need to bite the bullet. Sacrificing the snow is really insignificant compared to that.

Ending the california and western drought is a big positive too.

I think NY and NJ are suing all those companies lol My sister left Bank of America years ago when they data mined her private info and sold them to an outside party. Their email talking about how they want people's wages to go down and want a recession went viral. THESE CORPORATIONS SHOULD NEVER BE BAILED OUT-- IF THEY CAN'T SUCCEED ON THEIR OWN THEY DON'T DESERVE TO EXIST. Community banks are much better, which is where most people are migrating to. Exxon of course their record speaks for itself. Another one to go after is the collusion of big pharma hiking prices on lifesaving drugs which no one can afford. Honestly universal healthcare and price regulation would bring this country in line with the rest of the world.

wow 2014 and 2018 really were something on the opposite end of the winter spectrum 2012 really was "something" "something" !#%$^^&

Except for April 1982 and 1983 which were actually fun. That April 1982 blizzard is the first snowstorm I have clear memories of.

8" in Scranton lol. This really is an all timer

Yeah the common theme back then was all the cold was frontloaded and then it was warm in February and beyond. December and January were especially MUCH colder back then but usually cold and dry. February became warmer and by then even if it was stormy it was too warm for snow.

Prime example of the predominant cold suppressed pattern of the 80s is how DC averaged a lot more snow then than they have since NYC's "snowy" era began.

Suppressed patterns were common in the 80s though, it was just too cold for snow back then Before it warmed up too much for snow lol

Walt, so 0.1" snow this morning at MPO and 0.5"? yesterday? I saw Boston had 1.2"-- is this their first snow of the season?

This is not about that but just some thoughts about the current pattern. People blaming this on La Nina are a little off target IMO. This winter isn't behaving like a la nina, especially not with that firehose of moisture going right into California (which they really need). This winter has a mixture of el nino and la nina elements or more accurately, it's behaving like a neutral enso. AND NEUTRAL IS THE WORST POSSIBLE ENSO TO GET. especially after a la nina! Just like la nina after el ninos become our hall of fame winters (following hall of fame summers), neutral after la ninas become our hall of shame winters. Look at this list of neutral winters after la nina.... 1989-90 2001-02 2011-12 Some list huh? This is behaving MUCH more like a neutral enso.....

Yeah Jan 2016 wasn't higher than those 2 (1993 and 1996) but I would rank it higher than March 1960

Best example of corporations being psychopathic are the big banks-- let's use Wells Fargo and Bank of America as examples. They break the law numerous times and all that ever happens are some fines and the CEOs get a huge severance package. The latest example is Wells Fargo stealing ("repossessing") people's homes and cars claiming those people owed them money and finding out later they were lying (as usual) and now they have to pay 250 million in fines. If the Supreme Court claims (wrongly) that corporations should be given the rights of "people" then they should be fully subject to the laws that people face and for many of these kinds of horrendous crimes these corporations deserve the death penalty.

Walt how much well in the Poconos? I see they had snow there this morning too.

I guess there's still a chance we could beat the 1995-96 records one day. Both were la ninas after el ninos and thats what we need-- both for super hot summers and super snowy winters.

Walt, I heard that the Poconos had some snow this morning too?

they're always cold and snowy

I always thought 13-14 was further down the list because most of those snowfall events were mixed precip. To give a winter an A+ there must be at least one widespread 20"+ snowstorm.

Yep I see large stretches of barren land in the Alps in the winter, they are going to have a lot of fresh water shortages in Europe too.

Amazing that 2002-03 is never recalled for cold and yet it was so consistently cold, moreso than 2010-11 which had all those consecutive days of snowcover.