LibertyBell

Let's do it on Sunday when it's 55 degrees and raining lol, something to look forward to.

is that 3.2 on Long Island from Babylon?

least snowiest winter with a mean temperature below 35.0 in over 30 years, Don.

are we switching to a predominantly +PNA cycle now?

much less snowy than any of those winters too, from what Chris said, this is the least snowy winter in over 30 years with an average temperature below 35.0

is it also the coldest winter with no 4 inch events? If we do somehow get one major snowstorm just before the season ends 2008-09 will be a great analog for this winter.

our entire area is in double digits now

14-15 was a superior winter down here to 13-14 (too many mixed events)

suppression is also a concern for next week, Walt

nice to see the JFK amount went up, was that still on 0.21 liquid?

peak was 3.0 in eastern long island on 0.31 liquid

you can't consider Philadelphia in the MidAtlantic this season, their snowfall deficit is as bad as New York City's. The entire coastal city corridor from Philadelphia to Boston is in a 7-8 inch snowfall deficit. Philadelphia only has 7.5 inches of snow this season.

it would be great if we could figure out what causes the repetition in the same season even with different index values lol

but a very sharp cut off just to our south. I remember being jealous of Boston because they got all the snow early in the season while we just had ice. Our turn came in February.

hopefully we get a storm out of it, one good storm is all we need

mother nature remembers..... whatever caused it then is still there and will cause it again

Unfortunately, someone always seems to be in a snow hole. Winters like 95-96 and 02-03 are extremely rare, there were no snow holes in those winters.

yes the first I ever heard of the south based block was when Texas froze and had all those snowstorms. It's better for them than it is for us. They get direct shots of fresh arctic air and we get stale leftovers

suppressed like March 2014?

when is it predicted to get back to 0?

we had a freezing ice storm with temps in the upper 20s and 2+ inches of ice here on the south shore we were on a knife's edge in 1993-94 2 degrees warmer and it would have been 25 inches of snow instead of 50. Just look at how much less Philly had than NYC or even JFK.

it's a combo of the storm and also the pattern (which includes the ridge and also the ridge to the west). Those storms get strong because of the pattern too.

right, fast flow and too many shortwaves clustered together 93-94 was similar to this (but colder, so more snow.)

Right, it's not the ridge doing it on its own, it's the pattern making it happen. When the pattern doesn't result in that ridge it doesn't happen, but then we get a suppressed pattern. What we are getting now are two different extremes and no middle ground. One extreme is the extreme suppressed pattern with the complete lack of a southeast ridge. The other pattern has too large of a southeast ridge and we get a cutter or a hugger. We are in a thread the needle pattern either way and neither of those outcomes is good for us. Ever look at a map of predominant storm tracks across the CONUS? You'll see a bunch of tracks to our south (suppressed) and a bunch of tracks to our north (cutters). For our area to get good snows we need more of a southwest to northeast track and just offshore. That does not happen in extreme patterns that oscillate between suppression and cutter/hugger.

The size of storms seems to be getting smaller too. If you look back at the 90s, we had several storms that hit us and the delmarva too, now it's turned into either/or. Why are storms getting smaller?