LibertyBell

I remember there was some discussion about this but it was awhile back, maybe even a year or two ago. I would suggest looking for keywords IO and IOD and Maritime Continent. The funny thing is that there are people reading this thread who participated in that discussion but they haven't responded.

How much of this dumbing down has to do with certain conventional media outlets and also malicious social media algorithms? On a deeper level, how much of this dumbing down comes from the great cancer of corporatist crony crapitalism, to profit at any cost, even if it means cutting down social programs, healthcare and education? We have seen a whittling down of all of these since the 1970s. Teachers and nurses don't get paid enough, public education and healthcare aren't funded properly, our food aisles are littered with cheap unhealthy food that damages the minds and bodies of our children, the long term benefits of society are sacrificed for short term gains for a select few at the top.

Don't forget the warming Indian Ocean. I've seen it mentioned here and there (usually shortened to IO).

Sound effect and sound enhanced snow are pretty interesting, sometimes they make a storm last longer because the snowfall lingers.

It's a reflection of a proximal location on the north shore of Long Island that does really well in snowfall too. Mt Sinai and New Haven are both local hot spots for snowfall. They fit together like two pieces of a puzzle, did you notice how the northernmost part of the central CT shoreline matches the northernmost part of the central part of the north shore of Long Island? They were part of the same landmass before the last ice age.

Was what we had in 08-09, 09-10, 10-11, 13- 14, 14-15, also a response to the low points in snowfall in 06-07, 07-08 and 11-12?

I'm not sure what the population breakdown is where most people live. Central Park is more representative of western and central regions than it is farther east. I wouldn't say it's representative of the north shore of Long Island though. Looking closer at the map, the northeastern part of Long Island has a higher likelihood of 1 inch snowfall (around 80%).

But 40% for southern parts of the city aren't bad either. For example, when my forecast says that there is a 40% chance of rain, it usually rains. I find that anything of 30% or higher is likely to happen.

I'm near JFK, the 40% stripe (darkest blue) goes right over the southern part of New York City.

I read that the relative warmth of the trees (dark colors absorb solar radiation, which occurs even when it's cloudy) is what makes the snow melt, in addition to preventing some of it from reaching the ground too.

40% chance of 1 inch not bad.

It makes you wonder if that Pacific Jet is wreaking havoc with the forecasts. It's been in the low 40s and foggy here this morning. We are going to go up and down for a few days before the arctic outbreak hits Sunday night.

Would love to experience that again, the late February 2010 snowicane was probably the closest thing to it (and NYC's latest 20 inch snowstorm since then.)

I'm not sure how much of a shut out it is for the local region for 4" and 6" snowstorms since JFK got one of each last year in February. Was that because it was an el nino? Maybe a stronger el nino is needed to completely destroy the Pacific jet?

it's going to be like 55 here on Sunday. That's an old fashioned southeaster

You should see his maps for 09-10, 10-11, 13-14 and 14-15, a great look back at some of our most memorable winters! It was absolutely seeing a contour of 10 to 15 FEET of snow in 14-15 near Boston! I never thought you could see that much snow at the coast!

It occurred to me that you moved to the jackpot area of the March 1888 Blizzard, Chris,

1783-84 was also our snowiest and coldest winter of that century.

Tony, anything for us from these two storms? 1987 - A storm in the eastern U.S. produced high winds from North Carolina to Maine. A storm in the western U.S. produced up to thirty inches of snow in the Sierra Nevada Range of California. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1988 - A classic "nor'easter" formed off the Carolina coast and intensified as it moved up the Atlantic coast bringing heavy snow to the northeastern U.S. Totals ranged up to 26 inches at Camden NY and Chester MA. Arctic cold gripped the north central U.S. Duluth MN was the cold spot in the nation with a low of 32 degrees below zero. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

wow lots of extreme cold and deep south snow on this date 1784: Ice floes were spotted in the Gulf of Mexico after passing out the Mississippi River in February 1784. Ice blocked the river in New Orleans, Louisiana. The ice in New Orleans is one of two times that this occurred during the Great Arctic Outbreak of 1899. The eruption of Laki in Iceland from June 8, 1783, through February 7, 1784, is the likely cause for the severe winter of 1783 - 1784. 1899 - Texas and the eastern plains experienced their coldest morning of modern record. The mercury dipped to 8 degrees below zero at Fort Worth TX, and to 22 degrees below zero at Kansas City MO. The temperature at Camp Clarke NE plunged to 47 degrees below zero to establish a record for the state. In the eastern U.S., Washington D.C. hit 15 degrees below zero, while Charleston SC received a record four inches of snow. (David Ludlum) 1899: The bitter cold outbreak of February 1899 continued across the southern Plains, Texas, and the Deep South. The mercury dipped to 8 degrees below zero at Fort Worth, Texas, and 22 degrees below zero at Kansas City, Missouri. Nebraska’s temperature at Camp Clarke plunged to 47 degrees below zero to establish a state record. The all-time record low for Oklahoma City was set when the temperature fell to a frigid 17 degrees below zero, breaking the previous record low of 12 below zero, set on the previous day. Washington D.C. hit 15 degrees below zero, while Charleston, SC, received a record four inches of snow. Snow was also reported in Fort Myers, Tampa, and Tallahassee in Florida. 1958 - Snow blanketed northern Florida, with Tallahassee reporting a record 2.8 inches. A ship in the Gulf of Mexico, 25 miles south of Fort Morgan AL, reported zero visibility in heavy snow on the afternoon of the 12th. (12th-13th) (The Weather Channel) 1960 - A snowstorm in the Deep South produced more than a foot of snow in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama. (David Ludlum)

that's weird, I thought seasonal affective disorder was because of lack of sunlight and sunlight stimulates serotonin production? UV lamps are marketed to do the same thing Our days are longer now, so it's not like late December short days.

I wonder if it gives you a serotonin boost the same way sunlight does? It makes me feel brighter too, not at all like dark depressing rainy days. Sunlight makes me feel happy in the same way. That's why I like snow and sunshine.

Maybe there is a difference with an east facing beach vs a south facing beach in SWFE (a southwest flow is land based when the ocean is to your east, but comes off the ocean when the ocean is to your south.)

Yep, that one reminded me of the February 2008 SWFE. It was key that they happened mostly at night and came in with a wall of snow.

Yes, some of these storms from the 80s sound very familiar. note-- the amounts were slightly higher back then (colder)? WINTER OF 1984-85 Feb. 5, 1985 - The biggest snow of the winter began this evening and continued through next morning, accumulating 5.7". 3.3" of the snow fell tonight. This came three days after a snowfall of 4.3". After this snow just 0.2" fell for the rest of the winter. WINTER OF 1985-86 Feb. 11, 1986 - The second 4.5" snowfall in the past four days occurred today and occurred between daybreak and noontime. These two small snowstorms accounted for most of the winter's thirteen inches of snow (half of the typical amount).