LibertyBell

That was the model that had us hitting 109 back in late June and we were laughing at it lol. I remember because you posted the maps.

Don it looks like tomorrow is the warmest day out of the next 10, with less wind and some areas approaching 70? Sounds ideal.

True lol. But I have noticed that we rarely ever see mosquitoes during the middle of the day when it's really hot. It's always early on in the morning or much later in the day close to sunset.

But with a cooler climate, as you stated before, we probably didn't have all these invasive tropical species here. I can't imagine hundreds of years ago we had malaria or west nile here or any of these other new illnesses we are seeing. I wonder what our biosystem was like back then? I see some of these towns' histories go back to the 1600s, it must have been as wooded as what I see in the Poconos today. Or even more.

My high school was built on it and is sinking a few inches every decade lol. They are havens for mosquitoes and other awful biting insects. I think if we exterminated mosquitoes and these other biting flies from the planet no one would ever miss them. Aside from draining the swamps, what else can be done? Spraying of pesticides? But that has its own issues.

Wetlands are, but not the ones in our area (especially not the ones near where people live).

One thing I noticed when it's extremely hot and dry, the mosquitos hide in the shade and come out much later in the day just before the sun sets. Or they come out when you're watering your plants lol.

Marshes are awful, it's why we call them swamps. I'm hoping one of these days they'll chop down the tall grass and get rid of this excess water. There are tsetse flies in there (they cause sleeping sickness). 42 inches sounds right around what I'd expect for rainfall. I always thought a more tropical climate begins with around 50 inches of rain, like what the Gulf Coast receives.

wow almost everyone averages less than the city lol, even Newark, LGA and White Plains. the average must have been even lower during the 80s when I grew up, do you know the 51-80 and 61-90 averages? 45 inches sounds much more normal to me and probably around 42 inches when I was growing up.

an advantage of wired stations is that they update much more frequently. and you can power them with an electrical outlet and not have to use batteries.

we have that nasty exotic mosquito disease now too. I didn't see all these mosquitos in June and July when we were baking, they seem to come out of nowhere now. I wonder what got them going in October and not before this? Or maybe I didn't notice them when it was very hot and they were hiding in the shade lol

How is it that we always have a ton of mosquitoes and gnats in summers when it rains a lot though and very few in a summer like 2002 or 2010 when it's dry?

that's good for average annual temperature but for measuring summer heat we have to go by 90, 95 and 100 degree days. Of course it's rapidly warming in the winter, but this isn't the case in terms of our hot summers. This was the first summer in a long time when it hit 100+ , it's been more than a decade since we've had a summer this hot.

What is it for JFK, I can already tell the rainfall averages by decade are much lower here. Our summers are usually dry and have been ever since I can remember (starting with the early 80s).

lol this is great, I love weather equipment. I'm absolutely amazed you all get over 50 inches of rain, I think that's only happened here a few times, 50 inches of rain is almost as rare as 50 inches of snow (I'm not complaining, I love my dry hot summers.) We get most of our rain from October through April here and usually the dry sunny weather sets in May through September.

it was already clear here for a few hours but the clouds have come back.

How were the 1980s and 1990s in terms of rainfall Chris? This is what I grew up with and what I consider to be normal. Also, here's a pertinent question The question is do you really want all that extra rainfall if it means more creepy and parasitic insects, more mold and higher pollen levels and more weeds? I'd much rather we just burn off the vegetation. My allergies were lowest in 2010 and that's no coincidence.

I think up by you, you average more rainfall because of higher terrain and you're not in the summer dry spot that we have down here on the south shore of Long Island. I've been used to drier summers for most of my life.

But take a summer like 2010 as an example, it was both hot and dry and we didn't have the kind of drought we had back in the 1960s or 1980s. Our reservoirs have been fine for decades now. I think the last real drought we had was in 2002.

The question is do you really want all that extra rainfall if it means more creepy and parasitic insects, more mold and higher pollen levels and more weeds? I'd much rather we just burn off the vegetation. My allergies were lowest in 2010 and that's no coincidence.

I thought it was around 42 inches because growing up, that's what The Weather Almanac listed as the long term average for NYC.... This book was published in 1973 with an update in 1991 (I have both). The last 30 year average it mentions is the 1961-1990 (the previous one was 1951-80). What were NYC rainfall normals for 1951-1980 and 1961-1990? Was it really that much cooler prior to 1970-- look at all these hot and dry summers we had before: 1944, 1948, 1949, 1953, 1955, 1966, we have some extremely long and very extreme heatwaves in there that have not been matched since.

sounds like a winter Miller B situation lol

what caused the front to intensify so much after it was already dying as it passed over our area?

wow thats a lot

it's not normal for us because we aren't as hot as the Gulf Coast. I find 3.5 inches of rain much better than 4, what we are going through now is just balancing the scales vs the excessive rainfall of the past several years. I'm sure it all averages out to 40 or just over 40 over the entire period of your station's record. I don't consider vegetation drying out a bad thing at all, it means lower pollen levels and much lower levels of parasitic insects and fewer weeds. We don't really need rain as long as our reservoirs are near or over 90%. If the reservoirs get low like they were in the 1980s then it becomes an issue.