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what total disaster ..... was there some kind of force field over N IL or something..... well its 3am...woke up And checked radar...thinking a MCS would be near by,,,but it's clear SPC enhanced risk didn't pan out ....that feature in Northern MO went poof hardy a drop of rain fell in LOT area....with a flash flood watch all day and night which was just cancelled..this of course caused the hydrograph forecast on the IL river to be to high..(see Morris) I have family members that get isolated when the river hits 25.5 here which was the crest forecast yesterday and they just recently moved back...so I am keeping them updated trying to stay ahead of the forecast it is a messed up system....WPC issues the 24 and 48hr precipitation forecast around 2am and 2pm each day....the new river forecast is not issued until around 10am and 10pm going off of precipitation ending at 12z/0z AND the WPC forecast issued 7 hours earlier of course by that time meso features can change or it is obvious that precipitation forecast won't pan out yesterday at 12z 1.5 to 2 inches was expected to fall in the basin upstream when the crest was 25.5..last evening at 10pm they lowered it to 24.7 based on only 1-1.25 inches in the forecast issued ....well that didn't pan out either so there was almost zero precipitation that fell in the drainage basin upstream the new QPF forecast just out has 1/2 to 1 inch from I-80 south but only 1/4 to 1/2 inch over the NE part of the basin (around LOT area) and western burbs...so the new forecast issued at 10am will have almost ZERO precip that fell the past 12 hours and the above forecast precipitation...so it likely won't be even to 24.7 now when it issued in 6 hours (23.8 now) but for example lets say that activity blows up ( not saying it will just an example) over Northern MO and moves across Northern IL at 9am...and it becomes obvious more then 1/2 inch will fall up there. lets say 1- 2 inches.....the river forecast issued at 10am would still be based off the busted low WPC forecast issued at 2am

This is what I was afraid of earlier ......models missed that and it messed up what they were showing for later THUS FAR, CONVECTION HAS STRUGGLED MIGHTILY TO SUSTAIN ITSELF IN A WEAKLY FORCED ENVIRONMENT WITH POTENTIAL LINGERING SUBSIDENCE FROM THIS MORNING AND AFTERNOON'S COMPLEX. new development over MLI area

its turning more east ...not sure how far north it will make it into N IL...at least the bow part...... of course WAA wing cells may form too though

so I went just down the road with a good view...as soon as it started going up...nice anvil moving in from the SW...I turned all phones and internet off to go "blind" thinking it would blowup. it got closer and closer..but there was a problem...no lightning or even thunder.....no mammatus clouds in the anvil... I got a few sprinkles on the wind shield form the dying anvil...juts got home and checked the radar...looked decent in Fulton county but POOF confirmed with that cell..but storms to my NW ..

something trying to go up NE of UIN..should head my way if it develops NOTE: In Northeast Peoria county at Three Sisters Park, which is between Chillicothe and Rome, Summer fest is ongoing ....1000's of people mostly in tents some of those in wooded areas...alot drunk some on other stuff too ...not enough shelter for all of them ..any big winds could be bad news

Its odd cells aren't developing yet over IL., NE MO ..like they are out in the plains ... these would moving into N IL if they did develop HRRR wants to develop a couple of super cells near IKK but so far not much ..even CU wise edit 4:55pm: small CU field may be going up now over western IL around UIN here SPC talks about the Northern MO area MOZ000-KSZ000-242230- MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0774 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 0356 PM CDT FRI MAY 24 2019 AREAS AFFECTED...NORTHERN MO CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH POSSIBLE VALID 242056Z - 242230Z PROBABILITY OF WATCH ISSUANCE...40 PERCENT SUMMARY...TRENDS WILL BE MONITORED FOR INCREASING THUNDERSTORM COVERAGE AND A WATCH MAY BE NEEDED TO COVER THE RESULTING THREAT FOR HAIL, DAMAGING WIND GUSTS, AND POSSIBLY A FEW TORNADOES. DISCUSSION...AIR MASS ACROSS NORTHERN MO CONTINUES TO DESTABILIZE AS STRONG DIURNAL HEATING OCCURS AMIDST AMPLE LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE. VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS A NEWLY DEVELOPED CUMULUS FIELD EAST OF KANSAS CITY, WITH A FEW ATTEMPTS AT DEEPER CONVECTION NOTED. AS THE AIR MASS FURTHER DESTABILIZES, EVENTUAL CONVECTIVE INITIATION IS ANTICIPATED. ENVIRONMENT IS CHARACTERIZED BY MODERATE INSTABILITY (I.E. MLCAPE AROUND 1500 J/KG) AND AMPLE VERTICAL SHEAR (I.E. EFFECTIVE BULK SHEAR OF 40-50 KT) FOR SUPERCELLS, WITH LARGE HAIL AND DAMAGING WIND GUSTS AS THE MAIN HAZARDS. A TORNADO OR TWO IS ALSO POSSIBLE. IN ADDITION TO IN SITU CONVECTIVE INITIATION, UPSTREAM THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS EASTERN KS MAY EVENTUALLY MOVE INTO NORTHWESTERN KS OVER THE NEXT FEW HOURS. TRENDS WILL BE MONITORED FOR POSSIBLE WATCH ISSUANCE.

yep.... LOT was expecting it to continue also THIS HAS BEEN EVIDENT WITH A PERSISTENT SEVERE STORM MOVING EAST THROUGH CENTRAL IL. THIS STORM HAS BEEN RIDING EAST ALONG THE WARM FRONT, WHERE UPPER 60S TO LOW 70S DEWPOINTS CURRENTLY RESIDE. DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY THIS WON'T CONTINUE TO PERSIST, ESPECIALLY AS LARGE SCALE ASCENT WILL LIKELY INCREASE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS There are cells going up in IA but they are moving NE.. there might be an outflow boundary from the old storm back to Northern MO into the cluster by MCI...that may light up soon but so far not much CU development over Northern IL note: I am focusing on Northern central IL area

HRRR still struggling ....storm is still a hair too far north and weakens it fast ..models and most forecasters clueless you could tell from the visible Sat. what was going to happen the past couple of hours...there is a mini "warm front" of CU popping up east of the storm and a mini "cold front" of CU SW of the storm think of the storm as a low and these fields are the fronts..with bubbling CU in the "warm sector" the storm is also slowing down...if this area because a complex then it will throw sinking air back NW of it and kill off any later afternoon storms

I think it went just south of town or is occluding

EVERE WEATHER STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LINCOLN IL 115 PM CDT FRI MAY 24 2019 ILC057-125-241845- /O.CON.KILX.TO.W.0013.000000T0000Z-190524T1845Z/ FULTON-MASON- 115 PM CDT FRI MAY 24 2019 ...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 145 PM CDT FOR WEST CENTRAL FULTON AND NORTHWESTERN MASON COUNTIES... AT 114 PM CDT, A CONFIRMED TORNADO WAS LOCATED 5 MILES WEST OF LEWISTOWN, MOVING EAST AT 30 MPH. HAZARD...DAMAGING TORNADO AND TWO INCH HAIL. SOURCE...WEATHER SPOTTERS CONFIRMED TORNADO.

SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LINCOLN IL 1258 PM CDT FRI MAY 24 2019 ILC057-125-241845- /O.CON.KILX.TO.W.0013.000000T0000Z-190524T1845Z/ FULTON-MASON- 1258 PM CDT FRI MAY 24 2019 ...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 145 PM CDT FOR WEST CENTRAL FULTON AND NORTHWESTERN MASON COUNTIES... AT 1257 PM CDT, A CONFIRMED TORNADO WAS LOCATED NEAR IPAVA, OR 11 MILES WEST OF LEWISTOWN, MOVING EAST AT 35 MPH. HAZARD...DAMAGING TORNADO AND QUARTER SIZE HAIL. SOURCE...WEATHER SPOTTERS CONFIRMED TORNADO.

102 PM CDT FRI MAY 24 2019 .TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON .DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE. ..REMARKS.. 1233 PM TSTM WND DMG 2 NW INDUSTRY 40.35N 90.64W 05/24/2019 MCDONOUGH IL EMERGENCY MNGR A HOME DAMAGED WITH DEBRIS BLOWN ACROSS THE FIELD ONTO HIGHWAY 67. POWER POLES WERE LEANING OVER. BETWEEN ROAD 700 AND 500. POSSIBLE TORNADO. TIME WAS ESTIMATED USING RADAR.

RGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED TORNADO WATCH NUMBER 231 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 1235 PM CDT FRI MAY 24 2019 THE NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER HAS ISSUED A * TORNADO WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF CENTRAL ILLINOIS * EFFECTIVE THIS FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING FROM 1235 PM UNTIL 600 PM CDT. * PRIMARY THREATS INCLUDE... A COUPLE TORNADOES POSSIBLE SCATTERED LARGE HAIL AND ISOLATED VERY LARGE HAIL EVENTS TO 2 INCHES IN DIAMETER POSSIBLE SCATTERED DAMAGING WIND GUSTS TO 70 MPH POSSIBLE SUMMARY...A SMALL CLUSTER OF STORMS WILL CONTINUE TO POSE A RISK FOR A COUPLE OF TORNADOES, DAMAGING AND LARGE HAIL AS IT CONTINUES EAST THROUGH CENTRAL IL.

decent couplet..storm is turning more right and will ride the boundaey 75/66 here now ULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED TORNADO WARNING NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE QUAD CITIES IA/IL 1219 PM CDT FRI MAY 24 2019 THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN THE QUAD CITIES HAS ISSUED A * TORNADO WARNING FOR... SOUTHERN MCDONOUGH COUNTY IN WEST CENTRAL ILLINOIS... * UNTIL 1245 PM CDT. * AT 1219 PM CDT, A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO WAS LOCATED OVER FANDON, OR 8 MILES SOUTHWEST OF MACOMB, MOVING EAST AT 40 MPH. HAZARD...TORNADO. SOURCE...RADAR INDICATED ROTATION. IMPACT...FLYING DEBRIS WILL BE DANGEROUS TO THOSE CAUGHT WITHOUT SHELTER. MOBILE HOMES WILL BE DAMAGED OR DESTROYED. DAMAGE TO ROOFS, WINDOWS, AND VEHICLES WILL OCCUR. TREE DAMAGE IS LIKELY.

MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0768 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 1215 PM CDT FRI MAY 24 2019 AREAS AFFECTED...FAR EAST-CENTRAL MO...CENTRAL IL CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH POSSIBLE VALID 241715Z - 241845Z PROBABILITY OF WATCH ISSUANCE...40 PERCENT SUMMARY...ONGOING STORMS MAY POSE A THREAT FOR A DAMAGING WIND GUST AND HAIL. A COUPLE TORNADOES ARE ALSO POSSIBLE. CONVECTIVE TRENDS WILL BE MONITORED FOR INCREASING STORM COVERAGE THAT COULD RESULT IN THE NEED FOR A WATCH, DISCUSSION...CURRENT SURFACE ANALYSIS PLACES A WARM FRONT EXTENDING EASTWARD ACROSS CENTRAL IL (FROM JUST NORTH OF UIN TO NEAR DNV). TEMPERATURES SOUTH OF THE BOUNDARY ARE IN THE 80S WITH DEWPOINTS IN THE LOW 70S. TEMPERATURES ALOFT ARE RELATIVELY WARM BUT THE WARM AND MOIST BOUNDARY LAYER STILL RESULTS IN MODERATE INSTABILITY. RECENT MESOANALYSIS ESTIMATES MLCAPE AROUND 1500 J/KG AND RAP FORECAST SOUNDINGS SUGGEST MLCAPE OVER 2000 J/KG BY 18Z. THIS AREA IS ALSO ON THE EDGE OF THE STRONGER LOW TO MID-LEVEL FLOW WITH EFFECTIVE BULK SHEAR DECREASING FROM 50 KT ACROSS WEST-CENTRAL IL TO 40 KT OVER EAST-CENTRAL IL/WEST-CENTRAL IN. RECENT INTENSIFICATION OF THE STORM OVER HANCOCK COUNTY IL HAS BEEN NOTED. THIS INTENSIFICATION IS LIKELY A RESULT OF INTERACTION WITH THE WARM FRONT. THE NORTHEASTERLY STORM MOTION SHOULD TAKE THE STORM NORTH OF THE WARM FRONT AND INTO AN AREA LESS FAVORABLE FOR SURFACE-BASED STORMS. EVEN SO, ADEQUATE SHEAR EXISTS FOR STORM ROTATION AND SOME STORM ORGANIZATION COULD PERSIST NORTH OF THE BOUNDARY WITH AN ATTENDANT HAIL THREAT. SOUTH OF THE FRONT, MOST LIKELY SEVERE HAZARD IS DAMAGING DOWNBURST WINDS, ALTHOUGH SOME HAIL IS ALSO POSSIBLE. VEERED SURFACE WINDS WITHIN THE WARM SECTOR SUGGEST LOW TORNADO POTENTIAL ACROSS MUCH OF THE AREA. THE ONLY EXCEPTION IS ALONG THE WARM FRONT WHERE ENHANCED SURFACE VORTICITY COULD AUGMENT THE TORNADO THREAT. STORM COVERAGE IS UNCERTAIN, LEADING TO LOWER WATCH PROBABILITY. HOWEVER, CONVECTIVE TRENDS WILL BE MONITORED CLOSELY FOR INCREASING COVERAGE THAT COULD NECESSITATE A WATCH.

TOR warning for that cluster in western IL...becomng surface based with a small area of clearing ahead of it BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED TORNADO WARNING NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE QUAD CITIES IA/IL 1145 AM CDT FRI MAY 24 2019 THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN THE QUAD CITIES HAS ISSUED A * TORNADO WARNING FOR... EASTERN HANCOCK COUNTY IN WEST CENTRAL ILLINOIS... SOUTHWESTERN MCDONOUGH COUNTY IN WEST CENTRAL ILLINOIS... * UNTIL 1215 PM CDT. * AT 1144 AM CDT, A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO WAS LOCATED NEAR WEST POINT, OR 7 MILES SOUTH OF CARTHAGE, MOVING NORTHEAST AT 40 MPH.

N IL looks interesting along warm front later....as course the position depends on poorly modeled MCS there is convection in NE MO not handled well at this time..with partial clearing ahead of it..if anything this will retard the movement of the front back north also flood threat

yep ULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED TORNADO WARNING NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 814 PM CDT WED MAY 22 2019 THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN ST LOUIS HAS ISSUED A * TORNADO WARNING FOR... NORTHWESTERN ADAMS COUNTY IN WEST CENTRAL ILLINOIS... NORTHEASTERN LEWIS COUNTY IN NORTHEASTERN MISSOURI... * UNTIL 830 PM CDT. * AT 814 PM CDT, A CONFIRMED TORNADO WAS LOCATED OVER CANTON, MOVING EAST AT 40 MPH. HAZARD...DAMAGING TORNADO AND QUARTER SIZE HAIL. SOURCE...PUBLIC CONFIRMED TORNADO.

many of those cells now TOR warned.... storms really increasing HRRR has discrete cells merging into a semi complex later ..... dew points are on the rise after mixing out some

storms getting going now in central MO..several hooking

TOR watch for me and SW looks like there is a mini dew point front moving north....where dew points are 68-69 south versus 59-61north....CU field in MO developing on the leading edge models start backing winds more SSE. around 23-0z as a mini low forms I-72 baby (you can never go wrong)

00z RUC and HRRR models actually increase instabily the next few hours...perhaps from cooling aloft .... HRRR also breaks out cells ahead of the line.....as mentioned by SPC

MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0354 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 0642 PM CDT SUN APR 14 2019 AREAS AFFECTED...FAR NORTHERN VIRGINIA...CENTRAL MARYLAND...AND FAR SOUTHEAST PENNSYLVANIA CONCERNING...TORNADO WATCH 67... VALID 142342Z - 150045Z THE SEVERE WEATHER THREAT FOR TORNADO WATCH 67 CONTINUES. SUMMARY...THE SEVERE WEATHER THREAT CONTINUES ACROSS TORNADO WATCH 67. DISCUSSION...A FEW LOW-TOPPED SUPERCELLS CONTINUE TO ROTATE IN CENTRAL MARYLAND. THESE STORMS WILL LIKELY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PRIMARY SEVERE WEATHER THREAT IN TORNADO WATCH 67 FOR THE NEXT HOUR OR TWO. GIVEN THE LOW-TOPPED NATURE OF THE STORMS AND VERY LITTLE LIGHTNING, THE HAIL THREAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE MINIMAL WITH A PRIMARY THREAT OF DAMAGING WINDS AND AN ISOLATED TORNADO. IT IS UNCERTAIN HOW LONG THIS THREAT WILL CONTINUE, AS MOST GUIDANCE SUGGESTS THIS ACTIVITY WILL WANE WITHIN THE NEXT HOUR OR TWO. HOWEVER, THE ENVIRONMENT AHEAD OF THESE STORMS IS NOT EXPECTED TO CHANGE MUCH WITHIN THE NEXT FEW HOURS AND IT SEEMS POSSIBLE THAT THE THREAT FROM THESE INITIAL STORMS MAY PERSIST BEYOND 01Z.

so there was a train of three...the first one was the original TOR warned storm...its gone....the current TOR warned storms is the "second" one....and the hooky one behind that #3 now is there #4 west of number #3 now,,another mini storm and perhaps even a 5th south of #4 now along the river ?

I don't get it should have been warned long ago edit: ULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED TORNADO WARNING NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC 731 PM EDT SUN APR 14 2019 THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN STERLING VIRGINIA HAS ISSUED A * TORNADO WARNING FOR... NORTHEASTERN CARROLL COUNTY IN NORTH CENTRAL MARYLAND... NORTHWESTERN BALTIMORE COUNTY IN NORTHERN MARYLAND... * UNTIL 815 PM EDT. * AT 731 PM EDT, A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO WAS LOCATED OVER WESTMINSTER, MOVING NORTHEAST AT 35 MPH.