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There's a nice signal in the CAMs for a robust supercell or two. Wouldn't be surprised to get something EF2+ as the discussion hinted at, but I think they are a bit too generous with the tornado probs on the northern end. Your target area looks pretty good at this time.
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Just using the Kankakee forecast sounding as one example to point something out... It's not one of those days with obnoxiously strong flow through the column, but it's certainly sufficient along with the nice CAPE. This is a nicely sheared forecast sounding with good turning with height all the way into the mid levels.
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Well, we have an ENH and a 10% tornado area on the new day 1 outlook. Gonna split this period off into a new thread in a min...
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Evening runs looking a bit ominous especially near I-88 southward. I think the flow off the lake should keep much of Cook and especially Lake IL with a lower tor threat.
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I'll say this... capping looks like less of an issue than Friday. Something could go wrong of course but I really do expect the frontal zone to light up.
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00z HRRR is fairly concerning for Chicagoland, especially southern parts.
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Yeah, it does look vaguely familiar to say the least lol
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Tomorrow is not necessarily a higher end tornado threat day, but definitely warrants some concern especially for anything riding near the boundary. Currently think the better threat will be south (maybe around Kankakee southward) but will have to see how the morning plays out. A lot of people will be outdoors tomorrow so hopefully they are watching.
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I'd say this pattern is worse than a death ridge (I know Chicagowx is shocked to hear that from me lol). A drought requires no clean up of flooded homes, businesses, etc. Droughts do hurt farmers, but this pattern is not good for them either since so much planting hasn't been able to be done.
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2019 Short/Medium Range Severe Weather Thread
Hoosier replied to snowlover2's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
Early week does appear to have some potential. Just focusing on Monday for now, the warm frontal zone could get interesting. Will probably be dealing with storms early in the day though which could muddle things. -
You know #1 was highly anomalous when there is a 6 foot difference between that and 2nd place.
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So here's something that is kind of impressive. The temp at Midway has been rising and is up to 78 at midnight. Not something you expect to see in May.
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2019 Short/Medium Range Severe Weather Thread
Hoosier replied to snowlover2's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
Been a tough day. The weakly forced setups are more prone to getting derailed, generally speaking. -
2019 Short/Medium Range Severe Weather Thread
Hoosier replied to snowlover2's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
New LOT afd is pretty pessimistic. -
2019 Short/Medium Range Severe Weather Thread
Hoosier replied to snowlover2's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
SPC added an ENH/30% wind area on the new outlook. Not clear to me how widespread of a wind threat will evolve so I'm gonna hold my tongue from further comment lol. -
2019 Short/Medium Range Severe Weather Thread
Hoosier replied to snowlover2's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
HRRR seems to be on a downward trend with the early evening development in the area though. That was my reasoning earlier for central/southern LOT cwa potentially being favored a bit... it was assuming vigorous (re)development along the warm front from around now through the next few hours but that is looking iffy. -
2019 Short/Medium Range Severe Weather Thread
Hoosier replied to snowlover2's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
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2019 Short/Medium Range Severe Weather Thread
Hoosier replied to snowlover2's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
They have it as radar indicated in the warning update. -
2019 Short/Medium Range Severe Weather Thread
Hoosier replied to snowlover2's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
Hopefully we can get something to go nearby in the next hour or two. If not then it will be a long wait. -
2019 Short/Medium Range Severe Weather Thread
Hoosier replied to snowlover2's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
Area Forecast Discussion National Weather Service Chicago/Romeoville, IL 556 PM CDT Fri May 24 2019 .MESOSCALE DISCUSSION... 553 PM CDT The weather forecast over the next 12+ hours remains fairly complicated, and uncertainties abound mainly due to the weak nature of large-scale forcing for ascent. While a threat for strong to severe thunderstorms certainly exists this evening and into the nighttime hours, how this threat materializes remains tied to mainly subtle mesoscale processes and subtle waves of synoptic ascent which are both difficult to diagnose and pinpoint with much certainty. Surface analysis late this afternoon depicts a northwest to southeast arcing warm front--reinforced by this morning`s convection which laid out an outflow boundary--likely just entering portions of La Salle, Livingston, and Ford Counties. Dewpoints immediately to the south of this boundary jump into the 70s with breezy south to south-southwesterly winds, and this seems to be demarcated pretty well by an area of bubbling Cumulus and HCRs which are steadily building northward. Recent RAP soundings and SPC mesoanalysis reveal that this is a relatively high-quality warm sector, with mean mixing ratios pushing 16 g/kg and decent moisture through a fairly deep layer (up to 700 mb). An earlier tornadic supercell, which was riding along the northern extent of this warm frontal boundary, quickly dissipated a few hours ago as it approached Bloomington, likely as it encountered a pocket of warmer air aloft with 700 mb temperatures analyzed at +9 to +10C. This is indicative of lingering capping, which has thus far suppressed any additional convective initiation attempts in the warm sector. Recent GOES-16 visible satellite loops reveal some towering Cu development taking place across West Central Illinois, however, where capping is lower due to cooler temperatures aloft. Farther to our west, an additional area of bubbling cumulus has been noted across central and eastern Iowa, although recent radar trends suggest incipient updrafts are struggling to develop. Large scale forcing for ascent is not strong here, but modest mid-level height falls (20-40 m/12 hours) are noted in recent analyses nosing into far northwestern Iowa at the leading edge of a very subtle shortwave. It`s possible some lingering mesoscale subsidence is still in place across eastern Iowa in the wake of this morning`s MCS, tempering additional robust convective development at this juncture, but conditions do appear favorable for robust updraft development over the next few hours. With this all laid out, it does appear there may be two favored corridors for potential convective development over the next few hours: /1/ near and south of the incoming warm front and /2/ across eastern Iowa. All modes of severe weather would be possible across our area, including the threat for a few tornadoes. Deep layer shear in excess of 50 kts will support rotating storms and supercell structures and sizable CAPE in the hail growth zone will foster large hail development, potentially to the size of golf balls or even larger with some analogs supporting 2"+ hail not out of the question. Recent runs of the HRRR have been a bit concerning, developing robust storms near the incoming warm front and into the I-80 corridor. Locally backed surface flow would support a tornadic potential with these storms as they interact with the front and gain access to considerable streamwise vorticity. Think it looks too aggressive based on latest satellite trends, but we will need to keep our eyes peeled for development near and south of I-80 during the 8 to 11 PM time frame. The other area of convection--to our west in eastern Iowa--may attempt to develop into our western counties later this evening, likely after 10 PM or so. A tornado threat will continue here, although CAM guidance indicates some propensity for storms to congeal into clusters which may eventually deliver more of a damaging wind and hail threat as this second area of activity pushes eastward into the overnight hours. Finally, a flash flood potential does exist this evening and overnight, although the spatial breadth and magnitude of this threat still is uncertain due to the mesoscale processes involved. Current thinking is that the Flash Flood Watch captures the favored corridor well, and no immediate changes are planned. Carlaw -
2019 Short/Medium Range Severe Weather Thread
Hoosier replied to snowlover2's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
Full disclosure, JOT went up 4 degrees in the past hour which was the basis for my guess. I really don't know how much of a rise there will be. -
2019 Short/Medium Range Severe Weather Thread
Hoosier replied to snowlover2's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
Sun out here too. Might be able to pull off about a 4-7 degree rise (?) in temps as we take advantage of late day insolation before temps slowly fall. -
2019 Short/Medium Range Severe Weather Thread
Hoosier replied to snowlover2's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
Definite northward progress since last time I posted the map -
2019 Short/Medium Range Severe Weather Thread
Hoosier replied to snowlover2's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
We don't have a big convective complex ongoing, so there is really nothing to hold back the warm front from making a significant northward push from where it currently is. Question I have for later this evening is how long storms will remain surface based/near surface based. The pressure gradient is not all that strong to keep the low levels well mixed after dark... on the other hand, the airmass near/south of the warm front is quite moist to keep the amount of nocturnal cooling somewhat in check so could envision a wind/tornado threat lingering into the overnight... at least isolated.