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I was thinking over.

Wow, lol

I browse these threads sometimes and have seen Tip mention the 588 over Miami thing or something like that as having a deleterious effect on shortwaves. Tip, would it make something as amped up as this rolling through the Plains-Lakes less likely to verify or am I misunderstanding?

Looking at Thu-Fri to really start refining the details. With any luck the rug won't get pulled out (if not imby then overall) before then.

I suppose there are no absolutes but generally speaking, I think slower solutions are more likely to end up farther north. In that case, the northern stream can't put as much of a cap on how far north this can come.

Definitely run the risk of a fairly narrow area of snow with this type of evolution, but it has been hard to get a good phase to benefit the heart of the sub or to even get much action in general, so it is nice to see something. The ice potential looks like it could be intriguing but way too early to really dig into that.

Usual caveat about the GEFS not being upgraded but virtually all of them have something.

A second ice storm in the same area out around day 10.

Look at that heavy precip feeding into the ice area. Would probably lose a significant amount to runoff though with those kind of rates unless temps are way below freezing.

I drink maybe a handful of times a year and don't even keep the stuff around. Try to be careful with what I do as I had an aunt who basically drank herself to death. I didn't take personal offense to Alek's comment but it can be a sensitive subject. On a weather related note, the ICON looks pretty crappy for the storm. Let's see what the GFS does.

Hopefully this shifts south for Brownsville

Only about 5 more days to run out the clock on model runs lol This may not work out in the end but at least for now, it is set up in an okay way. The northern stream sort of scoots by harmlessly without acting to shunt the emerging southern stream wave really far south. One possibility is that the northern stream is more aggressive and acts as more of a suppressing agent but we aren't really seeing that on the latest runs.

We are having one for the weekend by God. I don't care if it's a pencil thin band.

While it hasn't been as torchy as late December (not a hard thing to accomplish since it was so far above average then), 2020 is off to a pretty mild start. Generally speaking, the mins have been farther above average than the maxes in the region, though there are some pretty significant positive departures with the maxes as well. Also, thought I would bump this map that I posted a while back. Pretty clear that the timeframe on this map is going to end up warmer than average in a lot of the N area, and substantially so. Not to bust on CPC, but I wonder why the warm signal was missed?

The downside to basically leaving the southern stream wave to its own devices is a fairly narrow area of wintry precip. We've had a tough time getting proper phases though so I'm almost ready to try anything

Good post RC. Should be cold enough on the northwest fringe for snow/ice, so the bigger concern is how that southern wave tracks. Would be a kick in the pants to get missed to the south right after the other storm passes too far north.

It's been pretty bad. Haven't even had a 3" snowfall yet. At least my total to date finally broke 6"

Well, the high is indeed retreating eastward, but modeled surface winds are still easterly at that time, and it's overnight/early morning timing. Perhaps a plausible situation, but good luck getting anything to lock in at this distance haha.

Lol at the system on the GFS around day 10.

Yeah, thought there could be some isolated amounts near 6", but it was even heavier than that and a more widespread band of decent amounts. Nice system for some folks. Ended up just over 1" here.

Do you have any early thoughts on March/April by any chance? Just very general ideas, like a normalish transition to spring or a winter that hangs on?

Another episode of Chicago snowfall futility, brought to you by me. I had to get a little creative with this one since the early season snows have helped to put the ultimate low mark out of reach, and also did not want to get too far ahead of myself by writing off the entire month of January. So, this is least snowfall from November 15 to January 15. If less than 2" additional occurs through January 15, then a top 10 (or should we say bottom 10) mark will be achieved. 1.3", 11/15/2012 to 1/15/2013 1.7", 11/15/2001 to 1/15/2002 2.0" 11/15/2019 to 1/3/2020 2.4" 11/15/1912 to 1/15/1913 2.6" 11/15/1889 to 1/15/1890 2.7" 11/15/1936 to 1/15/1937 3.5" 11/15/1923 to 1/15/1924 3.6" 11/15/1943 to 1/15/1944 3.9" 11/15/1906 to 1/15/1907 4.0" 11/15/1905 to 1/15/1906

Pretty convective look to the precip with this northern stream wave. Could see some localized 3-4" amounts in parts of MN/IA, maybe isolated higher? Exciting stuff I know.

If there's any positive news, it's that most of the early starting seasons in Chicago had at least one decent or good month in Jan, Feb, or Mar, even if the final total ended up being not so good. So we'll see. Notable exception in 1952-53... that whole thing majorly sucked.

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