Eskimo Joe

Unfortunately we probably won't see much societal change for the better. Things like right to work laws have largely enabled businesses to suffocate any incremental improvements for employees in this county. Even something as simple as equitable sick leave has been squashed because it's somehow bad for business owners to let a sick employee stay at home and rest up.

Saw it on Twitter, tried to find the link but I can't find the source again in my feed so I deleted it. I don't want to spread potentially bad info.

OMG THIS IS AMAZING!!!

One thing that's been really prevalent is how rapidly COVID19 spreads in a closed environment compared to the flue et al. Nursing homes, military ships, meat packing plants. Once it's inside your place of work it just goes through the population like wildfire.

I'd like to the see the euro pull the low just a tad NW a bit. But that's a healthy signal for another event worth watching.

/mid atlantic

It's pretty!

100% agree. We started working on our recovery/re-opening plan the day after Hogan announced the shuttering of non-essential services. What is going to really suck is what places like Florida are doing where they're re-opening things full blast in the next 2 weeks without check. Florida is starting to re-open beaches this Friday at 5:00 pm and the governor has stated he wants to no restrictions on crowds. That's completely asinine.

Pics?

I guarantee you between May 15 - 20 a large swath of this country is going to be in the process of opening back up. Come Memorial Day, you'll see crowded beaches and people clamoring to get back into bars, etc. We'll forget this even happened by July.

Asking people not to be selfish or adapt to a short term change in their lives is apparently akin to tyranny.

Sorry, this thread is moving fast and I'm running on 5 hours of sleep.

Gov. hogan presser at 2:30 pm today RE: schools.

We live in the stupidest, most selfish country in the world.

We live in such a feckless society in this country. We've had a few weeks of shifts in how we operate and people are losing their minds. There haven't been runs on banks, we aren't out of food, water or electricity and society hasn't collapsed. We're being asked to be nice to the vulnerable parts of our community and yet people acting like they're in a communist block country. Just look at what's going on in Michigan and Ohio. Folks think this is bad, imagine what a virus or bacteria with a mortality rate of something like 10% to 15% would be like.

We're about to enter the "we overreacted" phase from the political talking heads that always talk out their a$$.

Okay.

Correct. There are some folks out there who think they can accept COVID patients and that's really not the point of them. To be clear, I wasn't insinuating anyone on this board thought they should be used for COVID patients.

The hospital ships are designed for trauma injuries in battle. They aren't designed intrinsically for clinical cases such a COVID et al. It's true they can be used for offloading some of the daily hospital burden on a city like LA or NYC, but utilizing these ships presents layers of logistical challenges such as ferrying patients, extra patient tracking between the civilian and military sector.

The other issue is culture. Places like India, Japan, etc. it's normal to wear a mask if you're sick and have places like train stations thoroughly cleaned each night. Their society doesn't whine like an immature child when they have to modify their movement for a few weeks during a public health event.

My friend in PA is an x-ray tech who was furloughed through June 1. He works in outpatient and doesn't have the training to support the ER yet since he's only been there about 6 months. What Phin said is true, but it's a stretch if anything thinks it's widespread.

Some hospitals are temporarily furloughing staff in their outpatient clinics who are not qualified to support ER or specialty COVID operations. It's isolated to mainly rural hospitals locations that don't have a specialty (IE: trauma, stroke, etc.)