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Perhaps he will - that won't stop me from being respectful. I can control me, my words, my actions and no one else's.

Thank you. I appreciate that.

Did you ski Superstar?

Tim, I understand. I really do. And I told him as much as well. My "issue" is that some of us in here are weather fans, but the majority are into one thing...snow. The board ebbs and flows with the seasons, and it's the time of the year when snow lovers have returned. So, part of my hang up is the "knowing your audience" thing - a lot of people only are interested in reading/hearing/talking about one thing, and that is how are we going to get snow on our yards. The second, related part of it is - we've talked Steelers, downtown Pittsburgh, snow, soccer, and other things. Depending on the season and other factors, all is okay in my book. However, TCC clearly has a singular agenda. It just so happens that his agenda is counter to what the masses want to hear about. And that dynamic, like it or not, even dare I say fair or not, has caused a lot of tension. I'm really trying not to take sides because a part of me sides with your "team." I balance that with the thought of trying to keep this a fun, comfortable place to hang out and chat. All I can say is this - if I'm told that I'm constantly pissing people off, I'd stop. Right or wrong, I'd stop. And he hasn't, even though he was asked to. That's just my perspective. Again, what I'm really tired with is the constant tension. As Atomix just alluded to, we'd have occasional "spats" (some of which I was a part of) but nothing of this nature. It's concerning.

I sort of found a weird sense of humor in all of this a few months ago but it's beyond tiring now.

I think Roundtop opened pretty early one of the past few years but quickly had to close right back up until January because they just couldn't sustain a base.

Yes! I'm model watching for the first time since last March because I'm genuinely excited to see what happens. Sure, I wish it was going to snow but a big, wrapped up storm still gets me invested.

Thanks! I was foolish and didn't let the run finish out. That low sits and spins for a couple of days and we seem to vacillate between rain and snow throughout.

ICON has a small but intense area of snow across MD on Tuesday.

12z GFS is roughly a 24 event with the weekend storm - rain arrives midday Sunday and is winding down midday Monday. SLP moves from near Wilmington NC to Scranton in a 6 hour period.

Good news if correct. I much prefer cold vs. warm leading into Christmas. If it ain't going to be white, at least let it feel festive.

If we only had cold air... Can you imagine the level of excitement in here? That's the kind of map that those of us, especially in eastern PA pine for and drool over.

WPC slowly but surely ramping up:

Pretty big disparity this morning across the area - that map shows a lot of temps in the 25-30 range in my area. My low was just 26.4

I've read and reread that statement 15 times. And now, it's happy hour for me.

I hesitate to speak for someone that I don't even know. I'll assume that he means that in aggregate, the remainder of the month will be well AN. Your point is certainly thought provoking, and I guess opens things up for personal perception. I would not classify a low of 30 or even in the 20s in December as "cold" but again, that's me. The normal low at MU for the remainder of the month ranges between 22 and 26 degrees, so a temp of 30 is fairly significantly AN. If it was 30 on the morning of 10/14, I'd say it's cold. To me, the time of year matters greatly in my own perception. 75 in February is incredibly warm, 75 in July is delightful. Interesting how all of us are unique in our own perceptions.

I'm just the messenger of one professional opinion...and it's a rather strong one at that. (posted last evening from MU) Essentially, cold air is and will remain bottled up at high latitudes for at least the next 2-3 weeks. Greenland/North Atlantic blocking is currently absent and not expected to develop through the end of December, and a Pacific Jet Extension (PJE) should flood much of North America with mild air for the foreseeable future. PJEs typically force a southward dip in the Jet Stream over Alaska and the eastern Pacific and a subsequent northward bulge over eastern North America. The resulting, westerly flow across the contiguous United States keeps Arctic air confined to high latitudes. As such, December is essentially a "lost cause" for snow-lovers south of I-80 and east of I-99. "Wishcasts" calling for a White Christmas or a shift toward colder/snowier weather around the holiday are simply not based in reality and should be ignored. The tide may turn in early- to mid-January, but it'll be a "no-show" until then. As the old adage goes, "Patience is a virture." -- Elliott

I've reached my forecast high of 43 here currently.

I guess we could potentially get half of that depending on the final evolution of this.

WPC starting to zero in on the big east coast rainstorm for next week that @MAG5035 alluded to:

Correct - frontal passage timing is unique in that now that the flow has switched around to the NW, temps will only slowly rise today before bottoming out tonight.

A surprisingly mild 33 this morning - much warmer than @Mount Joy Snowman for today.

I think (?) it was WGAL and MU that both called for 1-3" of total snowfall for the month of December, specific for Lanco. That appears on track it seems. At least one of those outlets was that specific.

27.3 for the low this morning. You know, a lot of the winter outlooks had a common theme this year - a warm December with little snow followed by a pattern change in January that delivered a grand 2nd half of winter goodness. I speculated at that time (early November) that this place might become unhinged by December if the seasonal forecasts looked on track. Un-hinging has commenced, I see. I see no reason why it won't be a good season overall. Unless you just want to say that it won't because it hasn't. I mean, the Cubs didn't win a World Series for like 650 years until they did. Just because we've had a succession of crappy winters doesn't mean things won't change. Doesn't mean it will, but there's objective reasoning that says it will.

Crazy bumpy flight into BWI. Apparently no power at home due to the high winds.