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Even if this occurs, why cant it change in 5 years? I forgot the MET who stated it, however the MET on this forum stated that the warm pool is sliding east slowly which should change things.

100% correct!!

Happened a LOT in the 80s. The worst was 1989. Coldest month in my lifetime and the one big storm was mainly rain. Back then cold dry/warm wet was EXPECTED.

Got this off a 2 second search. Can anyone validate? " Here are the approximate average seasonal snowfall amounts for Central Park across different periods: 1870-1900 average: 33 inches per year. 1901-1950 average: 29 inches per year. 1951-2000 average: 24 inches per year. 1991-2020 average: 25.1 inches per year (the current climate "normal"). 2001-2023 average: 31 inches per year. "

Thanks for this Don. It must have been even more common prior to 1970, as I believe 100% of the above average snowfall winters from 1970 to 1999 had at least one 8 inch snowfall.

Nice little early season snow event for North Carolina and Virginia. Wish it was here but happy for them.

Nice early snowfall for Norther North Carolina (for their standards of course). I cant recall an earlier snowfall down.

Plenty of extinct clippers on the guidance. If one digs enough we can get a light event.

That one and the Blizzard of 1978 were the two.

1989/1990 season is a good example. Record cold December followed be record warm January and February (snowy March). Today some sites are breaking 1989 records.

I have an opposite view of the 90s. Only 2 above average snowfall winters. Yeah more clippers then.

A few clippers will be around. Nothing big but more frequent. Hopefully we get something from them.

Even though I am not a fan of the cold, it was kind of nice to step out there. Was looking at 1989 (Albany and Binghamton records), no wonder that was so cold....

Nice little snow event in Virginia and the Delmarva.

I technically live in New England. However my climate is much closer to central park than Boston.

The Delmarva keeps raking.

Yup. 1955 to 1969 and 2000 through 2018 skewed perspective.

1,000% Also I remember a LOT of warm winter months in the 80s. Some posters make it sound like the 80s were an arctic tundra. The 70s were very cold. Just not much snow.

The 80s were considered worse than the 90s depending on point of view. The 90s had more above average snowfall winters (2) compared to the 80s (1), however, the 90s were warmer. The 1970s were cold but only 2 above average snowfall winters (one was just 2 inches above average). Please be cautious when listening to posters writing in definitives. The posters that just give the current facts statistics and seasonal opinions are the most reliable IMO. There was a reason people always worried about the return of the 1980s (cold dry, warm wet) pattern during the good stretch. Now we are in it.

Are there stats comparing average snowfall in a neg epo pattern verse wpo driven? I would imagine it would be less but not abysmal.

2000-2001 central park had 35 inches. I believe the 30 year average at that time was approx 27 so slightly above average. 2008-2009 central park had 27.6, which at that time I believe that average was approx 28 so basically average. 2007-2008 was only 11.9 so a dude. So IF we only took those three examples an equal chance of above, average and below snowfall.

2000 Central park was above average snowfall for the season. 2008 close to average snowfall and a lot of ice. 2007 pretty bad for them.

Great post. I can only imagine the posts before 2000. I get it though, if most of my experience was from close to 2000 onwards I would probably feel the same.

Great post!!

Again courtesy of the MA forum. Its the NAM so grain of salt at this range but would fit the last few years where the Delmarva schoold our area w/r/t %of average snowfall lol.