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With BOS setting a record monthly temp yesterday, does anyone know if that will finally get someone to look at the readings there?

No different than a fake cold 32° and having to scrape your windshield. Seriously, congrats on the snow...it's always special to get hit like that. Happened to me once in the 90s.

I was visiting some of the woods I tap in the spring and drove by Bigelow Hollow - I saw several people ice fishing out there and that's just south of you.

Here in CT when the cable companies were running lines in the 80s they were forced to provide service to streets/towns in rural areas to avoid what happened in Mass. The cable companies were told that if they wanted to provide service to Town X, they had to also provide service to Town Y even if it only had a few hundred customers. The same thing happened in towns like Stafford where most people live in the center of town (Stafford Springs). If they wanted to provide service to Stafford Springs, they had to run lines down all roads in town. Now every town and road has Internet. I honestly don't know why Mass. didn't do that. It's not like these places are truly remote like in the High Plains or Rocky Mountains. In a lot of cases we're only talking about 10-20 miles.

How far is the nearest Internet? Can you create an air bridge from there? If the companies won;t run the backbone, that could be an alternative. You'd need a high spot on either end but you can go 20-30 miles between points. The best part is once you do that you can offer Internet service to everyone around the school. How abut cellular service? I think AT&T & Verizon have rural Internet service packages. It's more limited, but would give you Internet access. Even if the cellular signal is weak, you can use external antenna's to improve the signal.

I'd take this over the 75° Dp's any day. I can always add a layer and still do what I need to do when it's cold but there's nothing I can do over cooling off in that crap. 5° this morning...I love that squeaky sound snow makes when it's cold.

yeah, it was something I normally see around a frontal passage. I was just driving along and bam, dense fog and the temp dropped from 23-24 to 17. Once I was out of the fog it went back up. It's not normally like that either. Gotta live micro climates.

I drove through that are that was dense fog early last evening and this morning it was perfectly clear so whatever was going on clearly mixed out. The temp was pretty much in line with the whole area and there was no fog.

Something lined up tonight because it's usually not like that. It'll be interesting going through there tomorrow morning.

lol...no. Just a big open field in Somers: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9998001,-72.4687698,1206m/data=!3m1!1e3 I just wonder what made the temperature drop so quickly to the saturation point? I drive through there in the morning and occasionally I'll see fog but rarely in the evening like that. Plus the temperature usually is only 2-3° different not 6°.

I saw an interesting phenomenon driving home from work earlier. On my way home I drive through some large open area and as I was making my way across the open fields I encountered an area of dense fog and the temperature dropped as low as 17. As I left the open area the temp rose back up to between 23 and 24. I've seen that happen in the morning but I thought it was pretty cool to see that less than an hour of sunset and have the temp drop so much lower than surrounding areas so quickly without a front nearby.

I had 3" this morning and I'm hoping we get something tonight to have something measurable in the morning.

lol...one of those squares in Stafford is probably my house/woods.

You'll probably have more than I or Kevin will. It's the one thing I don't like about my location. Warm air always moves in pretty quickly. There's nothing south of me to stop it or hills around me high enough to create a bowl effect. The woods looked pretty solid this morning and I think they will hold out.

Yesterday while I was at work in Springfield, I could see that house was pushing 50° while it was in the upper 30s there. When I left at 4:30 it was still around 40° downtown but just coming up the hill on Route 5 into Longmeadow was enough to bump it up into the mid 40s. Cold likes to pool... Looks like I have 3-4" of solid cover still. Let's see what makes it out of today and if we can add to what's left. This is why I was OK with the hours of sleet while others had snow last week - a little extra staying power. It might not be enough, but it's better than nothing.

Made it to down to 1° here. Missed my first zero by 1°...oh well.

FWIW, I keep my weather record 7A to 7A so snowfall I what I have listed for 12/2 for example would have been snow that fell between 12/1 at 7A and 12/2 at 7A. So, I have an entry of 1.5" on 12/4 that fell mostly on the 3rd but after 7A so my storm total was 15", not 13.5". Sorry if I'm confusing the record. My season total is right it's just the dates might be slightly different from others.

That's why I'm OK with the 3-4" of sleet I received. That will take a lot more to melt than plain snow would.

It's winter time...time for a new banter thread.

I'd like to contribute...

Why not the opposite? A tax credit for limiting carbon use. It would provide added incentive beyond the expense of using carbon.

The enemy is not capitalism. In fact, that's where the money is that is needed to address climate change. Climate change shouldn't be a political pawn to achieve ones political goals. You're going to need the capital that capitalism generates to invest in sequestration or nuclear power. Provide enough incentive and the market will provide everything in a rapid time frame. Politicize it and you have what we currently have.

I guess the top 5 impactful events that I have witnessed would be (in no particular order): December 1992 Storm (got to see deep snow to crashing waves after years no big storms) December 1989 Cold (coldest weather I've ever seen) January 1998 Ice Storm (Most devastation and longevity I've ever witnessed) June 1, 2011 Tornado (Got to witness the aftermath first hand) January 2011 Snow (multiple storms dropped a seasons worth of snow on my house in less than a month) Honorable mentions would be the October 2011 Storm, the 1972 Ice Storm (I think that help shape my interest in weather events) and the cold months of January 1994 & February 2015. I gave the nod to December 1989 because I was at Lyndon and the elevation and northern latitude enhanced the cold for me. I don't know that I'll experience a month like that again. Lots of good memories here by all!

I guess most co-ops these days do that but when I was a co-op observer I always measured at the end of the snowfall. I believe the guy in Staffordville does that but some of his totals baffle me as too high since we are so closer. I honestly feel like his gets snow blown off the lake when that happens...lol. Your point about a homogeneous record is why I did not support the adoption of the method but for those that have been doing it for nearly 20 years should continue to do so. For me personally, I stuck with the old method for just such as reason.

That's the same argument I recall back in the 90s when this "standard" came into being. Many of us argued that it would be impossible to compare systems from the past due to different measuring standards. I, for one, started keeping records with the current standard and never adopted sweeping and measuring every 6 hours specifically so I could compare one storm with another. Likewise, I can compare with anyone else that measures at the end of snowfall. Personally, I think it should never have been implemented but that ship has long sailed and we have a mix now.