Buckeyes_Suck

Im signed up there however that site is an unmoderated shit show. There is no talking any sense into anyone there. Especially Trix and Randy.

Well to that I’d say why aren’t we taking draconian steps to combat the leading two causes? Why aren’t we shutting down all fast food restaurants and pulling foods loaded with sugar off the shelf’s? Why not force people to workout and be healthy? It wouldn’t take trillions of dollars to do that and you’d save a lot more lives. Hell if you did that less people would have the comorbidities that are making them susceptible to covid.

I work with three engineers in their mid to late 60s who the think same as I on this topic. 30 years from now I’ll be able look to back at how ridiculous this was and think the same. You guys have no grasp of numbers. 250k dead is a drop in the bucket. The lives being loss are generally out of the workforce and riddled with comorbidities. If we start seeing economies collapse the people dying from war and starvation won’t be. So no, I’d be just as objective and my opinion of something with a 0.7% mortality rate would be the same. 0.1% when you remove comorbidities. Ridiculous.

It’s not necessarily because people are listening to people in power. My opinion on lockdowns being ridiculous for something with a 0.7% mortality rate has nothing to do with what trump or anyone else says. It has everything to do with me looking at the situation objectively. I can also say that I’ve yet to work with someone in my field (engineer in the food and dairy industry) who is pro lockdown. We all have been pro mask and working safe but in our field we all have to go to work and keep pressing on. Several food plants have had covid outbreaks and we’ve dealt with it and moved on. I’ve had to work in some of these plants. I wore a mask, kept my distance, and every test I’ve had has come back negative. We do not need more lockdowns. Trillions of dollars in debt isnt going to just disappear. Some of these countries that depend on tourism won’t come back. NYC will hemorrhage money for the next decade as they recover from this.

No.

LMAO. King cuomo may have been dethroned. https://www.foxnews.com/us/pa-gov-announces-new-covid-rules-including-wearing-a-mask-in-your-house

Yup. And if more people listened to him instead of bullshit left wing fear mongering we’d all be able to get on with our lives. We wouldnt have economy’s and industries collapsing.

Yep, because WW2 is orders of magnitude worse. Again, not comparable.

I agree on the masks. My argument was only that ww2 and covid aren’t in the least but comparable when considering what should be a valid strength of response.

Also remember that the US population in 1940 was 1/3 that of today. So 420k Americans killed x 3 = 1.6M covid deaths needed to be comparable. And again you aren’t even including the injuries or destruction of property. (Which covid doesn’t do)

Where are you getting your numbers? The us death toll was almost twice that. https://www.nationalww2museum.org/students-teachers/student-resources/research-starters/research-starters-worldwide-deaths-world-war And the destruction of small businesses and some countries economies is because were overzealously reacting to this virus, instead of getting on with our lives like Trump has been trying to do. God help us should we ever have a real existential threat to society.

You’re comparing an event that was at least 6 times more impactful in just list of life. Then add in property loss and injuries. They don’t compare. Not in the slightest.

Roughly 3-5% of the world’s population, many of them young soldiers, were lost to ww2. 0.7% of the worlds elderly and vulnerable dying to Covid is quite the difference. (And this doesn’t back out the deaths of the people that would have died of other causes like the flu) And look at support the war had. Once Japan bombed Pearl Harbor there was overwhelming support for the war. I’d say Covid has completely split America into two camps. So I don’t think using WW2 as a good example of why people today should be ok with restrictions.

I thought it was funny. I dont think @wolfie09 has been nasty to Trump supporters but a few others here have been. This is also meant to be funny:

@wolfie09 I mean look at what happened to Katy Perry just for saying she wasn't mad at her friends for voting Trump. We've had family openly say that a vote for Trump means we don't love them. I would never disown someone or dislike them for voting for Biden or Hillary. (Maybe Bernie lol)

It’s blown down and now floating.

Wow

Lake Erie starting to respond. Sounds pretty windy out there, powers been out since the initial front here in Clarence.

I’ve already lost a large ash across my driveway. Needed more firewood anyways.

What I saw was him get involved with a scuffle and push a the guy down with the loud speaker. From that point forward he was repeatedly attacked from behind. That’s disgusting. If you’re going to confront someone do it face to face. This video will do nothing but embolden racists and further the divide in this country.

This is ****ing disgusting. What coward sucker punches someone from behind like that. And then someone else stomps on his head? Why isn’t this attack being considered a hate crime?

Yep. There was a seiche near the turn of the century that was large enough to flood downtown buffalo all the way to the first ward. I think several people drowned. edit: 1844 and 78 people died.

Cmon. Are we really defending king cuomo?

For the record I agree w this.

Bolded for you. That’s fairly black and white. "You have two months, and we can’t let this vaccination plan go forward the way the Trump administration is designing it because Biden can’t undo it two months later, we’ll be in the midst of it. And I'm going — I've been talking to governors across the nation about that; how can we shape the Trump administration vaccine plan to fix it, or stop it before it does damage."