Maestrobjwa

Forgive me, but...I just don't understand that. How can a region that gets crushed 80% of it's winters be bellyaching right now? Especially after all those coastals they got last year alone...are you kidding me? I don't understand that, lol

Ya gotta where a referee outfit when you say that, lol (i.e "I want a nice clean fight!")

"Sub historic"...lol Wow, yall been droppin' some vocabulary the last few days... This week we have unbust, back sag, and now sub-historic!

Thought I'd bring this up to give a little more hope for our chances (someone ninja'd me in the other thread last night in mentioning this, lol) Take a look the years of those shutdowns Government shutdowns...particularly the lengthier ones like this one...have often precluded big winters here. In fact...the last time we had a December to January shutdown? 1995-96...lol The usual caution with correlation vs. causation, but...ya know And the last 4 shutdowns that lasted 12 days or more? All climo+ years (two of which contained blizzards, lol)

Perhaps since the government shutdown is affecting some weather resources...politics and weather are overlapping in the conversations?

Kinda feels like that kicker is probably gonna earn some dubious name like "Crossbar Parkey"...lol That really is unbelievable!

What does that mean, exactly?

So just how unusual is it to have winter essentially paused by the MJO like this? Do we have any other analogs to compare this too?

In other ironic news...lol

Wow! Seems like a lot of people from the Mid-Atl north got the snow shaft that year, lol (in fact, NYC measured that exact amount as well). Wonder what happened with that El Niño? (someone in my home forum told me that we had a lot of close misses to the south that year!)

Yeah, that would definitely hurt...first El Nino in almost three years only to get cut off by that lobe of the PV? Ouch! But hey, at least we'd all be suffering together, lol (and maybe it could break down in February?...)

Hello! Do any of you know where I can find the snow records for the philly/new Jersey area? Just curiously comparing apples to apples here....There has been a lot of talk about the active moisture train we've had up and down the MA this year...What has baffled me is why the wettest years we have down here in Baltimore...have not been followed by above average snowfall! So, I'm looking for data from the winters that followed 1889, 1979, 1996, and 2003. Down here, the winters that followed were kinda mediocre...so I'm wondering if it was the same up here! (Needless to say this worries me for all of us!)

Makes ya wonder if early December was a precedent...gotta wonder if the south sees more snow than the Mid-Atlantic this year...(more suppressed storms?)

Funny how, mentally...we view the details op runs in the LR as things that have already happened...when, in reality...it's just fantasy! We say "it lost the storm!" where in reality, the storm wasn't there to be lost or gained--but rather, it's the computer just getting it's thoughts together, lol Just a philosophical $.02 on the weird psychology of we snow lovers...lol

Same...I'd rather gamble with temps than suppression...lol

How do you know that for sure, man? El Nino would argue against that...(unless we have really bad luck, lol And looking at the upcoming pattern...the only way this subforum doesn't shovel is if we miss on all a lot of opportunities, lol)

So uh...since the srefs are so useless, why are they even still a thing? Lol Are they good for something else?

Perhaps some consolation flurries for Baltimore?....Please?

So you mean to tell me we can have something like that even if we are NOT in a nina? And tell me...this...awful entity and wrecker of snow hope that is looking to steal our snow this time...is this a feature where, at long range (like looking for good patterns on the weeklies and such) we can say "Ah, with this setup, NS suppression isn't likely"--Because I don't want to even look at another threat where this particular thing can happen...because it seems to be a pointless fight. (Right now, the mere mention of "northern stream" makes me cringe)

Ya tryin' to torture us, dude? Lol But yeah, that goes to show you how just one little feature at the wrong time is screwing us over, smh (our last hope for this one is that it's being overdone on the models!)

Dang...I thought all our northern stream suppression depression would've left with the la nina--but here we dealing with it again! I guess this is one example of how...even in a nino...you can still fail south if the confluence is strong enough...

Well I mean...it would be...but ain't the "wall" still there? EDIT: Yep, it's still there...

Like what? What the CMC showed? What are the odds of that? Or really...when was the last time guidance looked this locked in on a suppressed solution 4-5 days out, and it all of the sudden trended much further north?

This sounds like a losing battle...If it was gonna work out, surely we'd see evidence of some sort of a trend in our favor (save the Canadian...but how can we evn consider that possibility when nothing else supports it?). Can we just stick a fork in this one?

That's the Canadian, I believe...