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Everything posted by backedgeapproaching
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Yea, living here I can tell you no chance in heck the base of auto road averages 98" at around 650ft-even though its close to the Taconic's. More in the 75"ish range. To get any real effect of the Taconic upslope you need to be a little higher and further west. I have a friend who lives around 1350ft on the east slopes of the Taconic's in Manchester and I can tell you the difference is STARK between that and say a little further east towards town in regards to snowfall. ( A sneaky good upslope spot is Shaftsbury NW of Bennington actually) One strong cutter with a south wind and dews the Taconic's snowpack get's hurt really bad though, if not wiped out depending on how much is OTG.
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I guess you are meaning lower elevations---you probably know Mt Equinox goes up to almost 4K. They certainly average over 100" above 2K in the Taconic's of SVT. No one lives above 1500' in the Taconic side of SVT, so hard to get any iron clad evidence of snowfall. There are few guys I loosely know that do some back country skiing in the Taconic's west of Manchester, have no idea where exactly. You are right that the Taconic's and Mt Equinox do pretty well on W/NW somewhat blocked uplsope flow. They can block some of that moisture from getting over to the Greens and Stratton, Bromley, etc at times and can relatively clean up while those areas get less. They don't do as well with strong E/SE obviously and they also can really torch, and have really bad retention--even the high elevations you can see melt out quickly at times say compared to much lower elevations east of the Greens. Have always wondered why they never put in some type of ski area on Mt Equinox-- I mean you would have almost 3K of pretty steep vertical right down into the west side of Manchester. I'm sure there were some political wrangling's going on over the decades that had a part in it.
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Looks at these massive totals here..ha. Death by a thousand cuts. 10 "events" Adding up to 6.9". Locally the SVT CO-OP at 1700' is at 8.9" and the Cocorahs guy at 1900' locally is at 12", so all elevations not seeing a ton. Just missed out on the OCT event and the coastal few days ago. 1.1" .7" 1.5" .5" .1" .5" .8" .2" .2" 1.3"
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Kuchera for March 1888..ha.
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Just your average run of the mill 80:1 ratios reported by JSpin...lol. That slopfest event was like 3:1 or 4:1 in a few NH spots couple days ago.
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I think without question the snowiest spot in SVT is the area north of Woodford towards Glastenbury like you mentioned. That area is always lit up on radar on any type of NW uplsope flow--much more than any SVT ski area or any area in general. It's like a Woodford on steroids as it upslopes in almost any direction and there are spots 3k to almost 4k in elevation there. Problem is there is literally nothing there--no roads, houses, nothing..lol. So who knows how much really falls.
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Yep, both are about equally distant to the east from the spine, so do well on E/SE flow events, but because they are removed a bit, they don't get as much W/NW upslope as say Bromley or Stratton. They still can get some in very unblocked flow and or streamers/dying lake effect. Same with Okemo, kind of fall in the Magic/Mt Snow grouping IMO. Again, The Northern Greens laugh at Southern Greens upslope, all is relative..lol.
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I know on the surface it seems like that would makes sense funneling down the valley ala I-89 and JSpin on NW winds, but I honestly haven't noticed that funneling effect at all here. If that was the case Manchester would get a lot more snow than they do, as they would also benefit from it. I have thought about that exact funneling your mentioning and really just haven't noticed it on radar or in real time obs. I think its more the fact that the Greens rise up quickly there and Snow Valley is close to top of the ridgeline.
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Yea, I've done it a few times in winter and some summer hikes also. Your spot on about the snow, its pretty close to the crest of the Greens even though it doesn't have the elevation of a Stratton or Bromley, it does really well upslope wise(again relatively speaking to SVT metrics)The snowpack always seems pretty substantial for being in the 2k-2500' range.
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The real estate company my wife works for is selling the land for one of the lost SVT spots- Snow Valley in Winhall. Can be yours for a cool $5 mil.. 90 Snow Valley Rd, Winhall, VT, 05340 | realtor.com®
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GFS had .50" of precip over near Jay and maybe close to Mansfield..any type of decent ratios that would be pretty good for you guys up there. Even the usual sloppy seconds scraps down here of couple tenths of precip. 2" I would consider a win.
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It was obviously a one time only try as do not wish to move out and have to get my own apartment
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I honestly once tried to get my wife to a LE measurement using the cocorahs gauge on the snow board when I was out of town for work. I was talking to her through the nest cam and telling her how to do it watching her as she tried. It did not end well.
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Cue up the JSpin trademark:
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Oh, for sure. Doesn't matter if you average 300" or 30" and live slope side or along the coast, early on everyone is looking for the first bigger event of the season. Also, a rare opportunity that you get to be up at Jay full time and want to take advantage of your situation and get out on the hill as often as possible.
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Unless DEC 2015 comes walking through that door, no one has less worry than you in pretty much any subforum on AmWx east of the Mississippi . Obliviously cutters still cut and suck for everyone and for base building, just hope there is no AK PIG.
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That's interesting, I saw that CO-OP and thought no way that could be in Gorham, but maybe? 3800' there at that spot, probably not quite representative of most of the people who live in Gorham
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December 5-6, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
backedgeapproaching replied to Baroclinic Zone's topic in New England
DC to Presque Isle, that is one hell of a chase. -
I don't even see a current Gorham CO-OP on Xmacis, but guess there is one somewhere...lol. See 2-3 old ones that are no longer active. But yea, what PF said is right, so much variation within town limits it's ridiculous. I live very, very close to the Winhall town line, but I'm still in Manchester. So a couple houses down would be considered "Winhall", same area as Stratton and many houses that are in the 2000-2400' range. You could have one of my nearby neighbors report 4" from Winhall (from the valley) and then have another "Winhall" up near Stratton report 20" in the same storm (theoretically under the right specific conditions )
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GYX PNS said the 17.9" was Mount Washington CO-OP observer. Not sure if that means summit or what? Oceanstwx would know or maybe someone else.
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How about the 1.38" in 2.5" in Concord . Serious mashed taters. That 2.5" is like .05" LE is some upslope stuff..lol
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Some serious liquid in these NH totals. One guy in Wolfeboro had almost 2" LE on 7 inches of snow. Marginal airmass FTL.
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1.5" here. Some lingering orographic snows hanging around..really light stuff here locally ATM. Not that 1.5" is much, but Manchester village couple hundred feet lower has nothing OTG.
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Definitely thought Gene, Dendrite would do better than 1-2". Kind of shocking. Like mentioned, marginal airmass with the real juice down by ORH and now in ME I guess.
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We'll wait for someone with a more precise dedication to the craft......your neighbor around 7am tomorrow...lol
