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Back to the gin and tonics here. Need this

Keep the politics out of this please. I know it’s a bit intertwined but the discussion today has been mostly free from it

But part of the problem is everyone is just assuming we will get back to the way we used to do things. We might not be able to and that has to be entertained as well. A new way of conducting business could come from this. In some ways we've started to see it with how business has had to adapt to the change. And in some cases its made things better.

Why does the reaper need a space suit?

Because everyone hates sitting behind the slow ass grandma and it will make someone try and pass them with the double lines and then they hit a city bus that shouldn't have passed inspections. But its a risk we take every day.

You can only tax break and incentives to a point. In the end business cares only about profits and wherever cheap labor and lax environmental controls exist thats where they will go.

Especially when reports and briefings were done back as early as January if not earlier

I have legit sat here and thought of how a bowling ball the shape of an apple would actually roll down a lane. And this doesn’t bother me one bit.

The break is too erratic to hit the pocket every throw

He can stay away from my hood too. Let him go party in FL and take cruises too

Sigh. Vending machines cause death too. Let’s use everything I’m not saying shutter everything for months or years but you can only hope to have a return to normal by doing the controls experts recommend. They aren’t motivated to destroy our country. But we have to get the spread of this virus under control before we can even think about doing things like we were just 3 months ago

Or what if the bowling ball has an apple in it?

Clear with a rose in it

If you keep putting people back out there that can spread this virus then you eliminate the ability for individuals to limit the risk. A person can only prepare for so much outside the normal abundance of caution they might be able to do.

That’s just crap. There is more control to keep a bus, train, car, plane safe than this virus. Seriously? This is why there are laws on how things are built. Things are safer now than they were and it’s constantly improving. i have to take my car in every year to make sure it’s safe. A city bus has a regular maintenance schedule. How many people die from a plane crashing in the US each year? come on. You just can’t compare that stuff and this

A lot of what you lost are things we choose and can eliminate. We can’t choose not to get infected. Again the issue is that there isn’t a system in place that can handle a massive number of people all getting sick at once. That is what we are talking about. The risks you bring up are staggered because they all vary as far as people getting hurt or sick. We aren’t all firefighters. We aren’t all in construction. But we all can get this virus and in a very short time. It affects everyone.

We’ve been through way worse and the economy came back. im tired of this “we have to go back” above all else attitude. You are dealing with something that cannot have dollar signs attached to it to quantify risk/reward. This is where we lose our humanity. I much rather have an economy that can be sustained because people are in good health than one constantly wracked with waves of sickness all because we opened too soon. Sorry but the fed and more will do what is needed to soften the blow for most people affected. And to be honest, if our economy is such a house of cards that it can’t recover from this then it was a sham economy to begin with and start from the ashes when it’s over.

Wind still whipping and it was strong enough to damn near knock me off my bike earlier today. That’s what I get for taking the training wheels off

I could see taking what wasn't covered the 4th quarter and integrating it into next years curriculum. Spend the first month on last years stuff and then roll with the new grade material. From what my kids tell me, the first week or so is refresher stuff. An abridged 4th quarter to begin next year would work.

Someone just wants to close the blinds and say all is well.

This is where I will give Northam in VA props for going ahead and closing schools the rest of the year. When he did it some said it was premature but as we see it play out it was the right call. Even if social distancing thats going on right now helps flatten the curve and we trend better before May there is too much risk. The second wave would be bad if all the kids and teachers and staff went back for two months just to get kids some last min learning. I want my kids in school but I want them safe. Figure out the trends and how this spreads via testing and data and then make the decision. Rushing back is dangerous.

My one big hope that will come from this is a much better sick leave policy for every worker no matter what they do. Part of the problem is how insistent our culture is to work when sick and not stay at home. Some have no choice because of lack of paid sick leave. This epidemic has shown that it takes very little to spread from one to many. As a business, especially food related, it should make you rethink an employee sick leave policy. Losing customers because you didn't let John or Juan stay home with a fever has got to be more expensive than paying the guy to sit at home until he is better.

The concern now will be getting people to understand that even if numbers drop due to social distancing we have to keep doing that to not have a repeat spike and be back to square one.

most modeling of this has shown a second bump coming after the initial wave. any new news of a second set of cases in these places should only re-enforce how a full re-opening would be too hasty.

That same resiliency you speak of will be what pulls us out of any economic crisis we deal with while trying to stamp out the virus. It pains me to see people think these “meds” some are pushing as cures or mitigators have yet to be proven on a wide clinical basis. It’s like the guy selling tonic water back in the 1800s. Unproven. Listen to the scientists, not the politicians.