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My wife works from home full time and I literally spend half the day saying “shh, mom is on a zoom call”. It’s not fair to them because really, they are just being normal 5, 7 and 8 year olds. Our 5 year old daughter has gotten good at the virtual thing, but she’s still a 5 year old and you can’t just leave her alone to do it. Honestly, my wife is a superhero for figuring it out when I’m not home. But these are all the selfish reasons for wanting them back. What really bothers me is I know at their age, they are not getting the same education and lacking the social interaction they need. Most Teachers are working hard at it and deserve credit, but it will never be the same and no one will convince me otherwise.

The only thing I will add is that it is clear that the school situation is taking a major toll on kids. I see it in my three, who are in elementary and I see it in my niece and nephew in HS. There is also an argument that less involvement in sports and extracurricular activities lead to kids spending more time congregating socially with friends where there is no control over reducing the spread (i.e. if you are at football practice, your coach is going to make sure you wear a mask when you should). I won't get involved in taking a position one way or another for most of the other issues as that seems to often turn political, except when it comes to schools. I think the data is pretty conclusive that bars, social events and private gatherings are MUCH more likely to cause outbreaks than schools. I'm really concerned about the damage being done to kids.

The media was the biggest loser in this election. No matter how things shake out, I think people’s trust of the media and polling has to be down near zero, if it wasn’t already.

I know those two peaks...if only two weeks later.

Beat my nj winter last year!!

I’ll have to get my special “jay” measuring stick for reporting totals this year. It’s funny, they will always beat everyone in the east in snow totals, yet there’s still those rumors that they over report. It will be interesting to compare my totals to theirs this year. They should just get a summit snow stake cam and end the debate, though I couldn’t imagine ever getting a solid reading up on that ridge.

Yep, thanks...that’s the one I was reading. Good stuff. If you find any others, pass them along.

Back camera not working so all I have is this crappy front door spot. Wind must be going crazy up there so id just be guessing at totals, but it looks like we got a little less than down toward Stowe.

Tough to tell for sure on my cam, but it looks like a spotty, slushy coating on the sidewalk leading to my front door. Disappointing to miss the first significant event up there by a week, but I'm glad to see the snow season officially kick off.

Such a great educational post for someone like me trying to learn about these up-slope events. I was literally just reading a paper about the blocked vs. unblocked events and froude numbers (all new to me). So it looks like for the Jay/Mansfield area, we want an unblocked flow which leads to greater precip on the the eastern side? What Froude number is best; anything over 1?

My wife is the same way; hates the drive. Me, I just put on some tunes and go..the drive doesn't really bother me unless the weather is bad. The weekend trips are a quick turnaround, but this year with the restrictions for VT, we will be doing bigger chunks of time up there. During normal winters midweek, I'll make the drive to southern VT. in the same day all the time. Anything north of Killington is a lot in one day, but I've done it. Skiing is def a sickness in that way.

They have a great window non-stop through mid week. They would def be open in the glades during a normal year. They just need to get through the seven day torch following mid-week. Mt. snow blowing up top too.

I'm about 5 minutes from the Morris County border. Your old spot in northern Morris is one of the better areas in NJ. The areas with about 1000' feet of elevation there like Northern Morris, into Passaic, do much better than the immediate NYC metro and the rest of NJ. In my area of NJ, we can do ok during some of the colder winters if the coastals track just right but the bad winters, wow, are they painful. Unlike up north, the cold is more important than the precip. Last year, we literally had no accumulating snow during the winter outside of maybe one small event. 11-12 was bad here too. We had a good stretch in 10-11, 13-14 and 14-15 . Snow retention is really the issue. Outside of those three, I don't remember any winters recently that had snow cover for more than a week or two. I love being up North when it just looks like winter all season. Northern VT is great too for the up-slope component; you don't have to have that big, perfect, synoptic setup to snow. I'll take the 3-6 five days a week over the monsters. I'm interested to compare how my location does with up-slope compared to PF, Phin, J spin and others and to compare what wind patterns and setups dump snow where. Jay and Mansfield seem to do well in similar conditions. This will be my first winter really spending a lot of time up there so I'm curious to compare event totals with everyone else.

Hey everyone; I've been posting in the ski season thread for a few years now but I never formally introduced myself. I'm Chris and though my primary residence is in NJ I spend a lot of time up at our place in Jay and especially this year, will be up there for a good chunk of the winter. I care much more about the weather up here than in NJ, so this is the thread I'll follow most. Obviously, upslope is what gets it done at my location (1900',) so I'm looking forward to learning from you guys about the patterns to watch in this area. Also, I figured it would be good to have a name to go with the f-u posts from the southern crew when I post pictures knee deep in powder from those three day long upslope events. Enjoy the winter guys!

Think of the possibilities this winter..I could leave the rain in NJ, drive through the Snow in SNE and arrive at my place at Jay to light Cirrus. They don't put that in the Northern New England brochure.

He looks like my neighbor

I really think you will be fine. There is a reason they are preaching education as opposed to enforcement. No one wants to deal with all the legal issues nor figure out a way to enforce the quarantine. They just want people to do what you are doing and follow the guidelines...which by the way I don’t agree with, but will follow. Day trippers driving up, booting up in their car, spending a morning on the mountain, then driving back are not going to lead to an outbreak.

I think just locking them by straight up county would be easy for them, but I don’t see how they handle the quarantine aspect of it. And to just flat out lock out counties I think presents a legal argument...Vermont currently is not preventing interstate travel, they are just setting guidelines on how to do it...just my opinion, but I certainly believe you that it was/is being discussed. I would agree get Snowdon first then you have the six pack and triple going at the same time to help with lift lines due to the restrictions..maybe they work on skye peak or bear earlier than usual to spread people out to that base area? I’m not that familiar with their usual opening besides the ridge then snowdon.

But how would they be able to turn people away that are from a red county, but who actually did the quarantine, or who have moved to vt. for several weeks at a time, which I think may be a reality with so many working from home? I assume they would use the address where passes were mailed or registered to? I think they are really pushing the boundary legally if they start that.

The country needs to heal. Too many divisive issues compounded by Social media. Best time of year though, for this crew. The stoke building and watching the long range Gfs for a little hint of that window when snowmaking can start. It’s getting real.

That’s the way to be...oblivious and don’t care as long as you are following the rules. Like I said, my area goes from red to green and back; I’ll follow the rules and enjoy the f out if this winter, rather than stressing over what other people think.

When you look at the numbers, it almost doesn’t exist up there. Most states see daily cases in the hundreds and when I listen to some of the vt. Governors press briefings, the press will be interrogating him on one or two cases (which might not even be symptomatic). I’m really torn on this stuff. When your numbers are that good, it’s hard to argue about the guidelines (though population and density are the main driver) but did anyone ever think there would be a time when one American was told they can’t step foot inside another American state for months at a time, for no reason other than simply where they live? That’s a tough one. Here, there are constant reminders of covid. Temp checks for lots of businesses...I even have to fill out a form every morning between 730 and 8 before I put my kids on the bus.

I joke about it but such a true statement. NJ really does have some parts that completely defy the stereotype once you are away from the parkway/turnpike corridor. Still, retirement will land us north full time for a variety of reasons. For now, I’m just happy to be an outsider welcomed part time during the year. I’ll keep my sports affiliations to myself, though.

Rumors true..jay on the Indy pass. Great move by them!!

Sounds like jersey even pre-covid.